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RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 28, 2021 at 11:43 am
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(June 28, 2021 at 11:32 am)Foxaire Wrote: I will reiterate: there are plenty of imaginative concepts at our disposal for which we never attribute the I don't know variable toward their existence. We confidently understand those things do not exist despite the lack of evidence related to their non-existence, which in itself is such an illogical trope that only the simple minded ever feel the need to apply it as an argument.
And I'll make it clear: this guy is not interested in conversation, just bullshit.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 28, 2021 at 11:53 am
(June 28, 2021 at 11:30 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (June 28, 2021 at 11:23 am)Frank Apisa Wrote: You would have done better to put the period after the word "YES" in that sentence. I would have been correct.
As it is, however, you are wrong.
Please point out where I said that you said there were gods.
And how would I do that to a person who has reading disabilities?
You could have just answered my question but you just go with your bullshit. So you cannot point out where I did.
You could have just said that.
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RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 28, 2021 at 12:09 pm
(June 28, 2021 at 11:53 am)Frank Apisa Wrote: (June 28, 2021 at 11:30 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: And how would I do that to a person who has reading disabilities?
You could have just answered my question but you just go with your bullshit. So you cannot point out where I did.
You could have just said that.
Again, using red herring to avoid the answer. If you are not interested in having a conversation then why do you come here?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 28, 2021 at 12:24 pm
(June 28, 2021 at 12:09 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (June 28, 2021 at 11:53 am)Frank Apisa Wrote: So you cannot point out where I did.
You could have just said that.
Again, using red herring to avoid the answer. If you are not interested in having a conversation then why do you come here?
I've answered that question a half-dozen times already. I came here to ask some questions of the atheists in this forum. Many people were kind enough to respond...and lots has been asnwered...and will be used in other arguments in other places.
But I have enjoyed some of the give and take here...and I'm sticking around for a while...or until I get the boot.
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RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 28, 2021 at 12:36 pm
(June 28, 2021 at 12:09 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (June 28, 2021 at 11:53 am)Frank Apisa Wrote: So you cannot point out where I did.
You could have just said that.
Again, using red herring to avoid the answer. If you are not interested in having a conversation then why do you come here?
To troll. Because that’s what trolls do.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
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RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 28, 2021 at 12:39 pm
(June 28, 2021 at 12:36 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (June 28, 2021 at 12:09 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Again, using red herring to avoid the answer. If you are not interested in having a conversation then why do you come here?
To troll. Because that’s what trolls do.
I am not trolling, LFC. You are. You even bragged that you are.
So...
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RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 28, 2021 at 12:48 pm
(June 28, 2021 at 12:39 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote: (June 28, 2021 at 12:36 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: To troll. Because that’s what trolls do.
I am not trolling, LFC. You are. You even bragged that you are.
So... The only reason you’re still here is because of a birthday favor.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
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RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 28, 2021 at 12:56 pm
(June 28, 2021 at 12:48 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (June 28, 2021 at 12:39 pm)Frank Apisa Wrote: I am not trolling, LFC. You are. You even bragged that you are.
So... The only reason you’re still here is because of a birthday favor.
Just but a bow on it.
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RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 28, 2021 at 1:05 pm
(June 28, 2021 at 10:59 am)Frank Apisa Wrote: As I wrote earlier...anything that has not been established as impossible...is possible.
So...unless that entity has been established as impossible...it is possible.
The set of entities which can be imagined is limitless. The set of entities which exist are finite. The chance, therefore, of any particular imagined entity (or group of entities) to match an existent entity is vanishingly small without some sort of evidence for that entity.
All of our knowledge (even science) is based on probability logic, not absolute proof. One can always add one more bad bandaid to a failed theory to keep it working, where a reasonable person would just throw it away in favor of a superior one.
If you truly hold to this logic about gods, then you must accept the possibility of any particular imagined entity as actually existing, when I have already established that the odds of that are close to zero. I presume you are agnostic about leprechauns, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, angels, and fairies as well.
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RE: A question about atheistic “beliefs” (opinions, guesses, etc.)
June 28, 2021 at 1:22 pm
(June 28, 2021 at 10:59 am)Frank Apisa Wrote: As I wrote earlier...anything that has not been established as impossible...is possible. Wrong, again.
You cant prove a negative, thus you cant show anything to be impossible, thus everything is possible? Like the universe being created by (a god or) pink, universe farting pixies?
Nope, you have to demonstrate the actual possibility of something. "Possibility" is an active claim. If you want to make the claim that its possible that the universe was created by pink, universe farting pixies, you have to show that (pink) pixies do (possibly) exist, before you can claim its possible they can fart universes into existence.
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