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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
July 24, 2021 at 6:49 pm
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https://www.utsa.edu/today/2020/08/story...study.html
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10....lCode=tvaa
Quote:New research findings published in the journal Trauma, Violence & Abuse suggest there is no connection between pornography consumption and sexual violence.
Quote:Pornography and Sexual Aggression: Can Meta-Analysis Find a Link? is based on research by Chris Ferguson, a professor of psychology at Stetson University, and Richard Hartley, chair of UTSA’s Department of Criminology and Criminal Justice. The authors conducted meta-analytic research and examined more than 50 correlational, experimental and population studies that explored the association between pornography and sexual aggression during the past 40 years.
Quote:Eleven years ago Ferguson and Hartley conducted a study on pornography and sexual aggression and recently decided to collect data and reevaluate the validity of the previous research studies they had reviewed because there was a renewed interest in the subject matter.
They found that poorly designed studies tended to be more likely to support a link between pornography and sexually assaultive behavior.
Quote:“Our evidence suggests that policymakers should examine other causes of sexual aggression.”
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
July 24, 2021 at 7:22 pm
My apologies to the staff for taking the other thread off-topic. If I didn't do it single-handedly, I was a major contributor to it.
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
July 24, 2021 at 8:32 pm
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Do we get to lump all christians together throughout time? Or do we them them sect by sect?
I believe that there is/were sects and times (current/past) where christian religion(s) were motivated to promote, and benefited from slavery and misogyny.
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
July 24, 2021 at 8:48 pm
I wouldn’t say it’s inherently supportive of slavery and misogyny, but I would say it’s easy to make the doctrine supportive of them.
This piece from a former Gothardite Christian (y’know, the same cult the Duggars follow[ed]) is a fairly illuminating piece on how, when the Old and New Testaments were written, slavery was a normal state of affairs, and women were expected to be under the care of (depending on their age) their fathers, husbands, or eldest sons. He also argues his view as an Evangelical Christian (if very much a dissident one, who eventually had to leave when the Evangelical movement swallowed the Trump Flavor-Aid and he and his family refused to): That the Mosaic Code to which many cleave was actually an imperfect compromise between what God really wanted from the Israelites and the realities of their culture.
If nothing else, it’s a fairly decent Watsonian explanation of how morality tends to change, why slavery was seen as okay then but very much not now, even if the Doylist explanation that people just start to figure out that certain things are bad on their own time is much simpler.
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
July 24, 2021 at 8:51 pm
Just because you're unaware that you're the property of patriarchal religion doesn't mean you're not.
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
July 24, 2021 at 9:21 pm
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(July 24, 2021 at 8:51 pm)Foxaire Wrote: Just because you're unaware that you're the property of patriarchal religion doesn't mean you're not.
True, but I see no reason that believers can’t find some way to pivot away from treating gender roles as a major article of faith. Churches deciding to emphasize certain aspects of the religion over others happens all the time. It’s kind of necessary to get a coherent ideology out of the Bible. The only problem, of course, is that they don’t do that enough. The guy whose article I linked to in the last post ended up leaving Evangelicalism because it became clear that he was giving an answer to a question that nobody else was interested in asking.
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
July 25, 2021 at 2:04 pm
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(July 24, 2021 at 5:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: tackattack made the very good point that the ‘PSA: Rape Apologetics’ is veering off topic. Since this goes against both the spirit and the letter of [Serious] threads, feel free to have that discussion here.
My answer: yup.
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Slavery, misogyny and other unjust acts or mankind's inhumanity to mankind stem from the generative heart of mankind since the fall!
“The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?" - Jeremiah 17:9
The aforementioned practices exist to this very day and have been and are perpetuated by a variety of people. "Before Kingdoms Can Change… Men's Hearts Must Change"
Human mistreatment of humans notwithstanding, GOD does not command injustice... He is the GOD of truth, love, justice, mercy! As time has progressed the record has been set straighter still and we are to "love our neighbors as ourselves" (Matthew 22:35-39), no matter what lot/station we have in life.
Theoretically, if everyone did/were able to do this... whether one were the server or the served... would there be the extent of mistreatment and exploitation there is/has been? There is recognition that because of the human condition these "relationships" will arise - but there is to be mutual respect, not mistreatment, exploitation and murder! So no, the Holy Bible does not "support" such things, as we have evidently seen them done throughout history!
Look at the perpetrator/s of the injustice and their hearts (if one can) and thus, their personal motives...
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Some of the what the Holy Bible harmoniously and pertinently states on the subject! (though there's more - for more intricate discussion):
“You shall neither mistreat a stranger nor oppress him, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt." - Exodus 22:21 (Old Testament)
"Masters, give your bondservants what is just and fair, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven." - Colossians 4:1 (New Testament)
These verses alone prohibit - particularly anyone who professes the CHRIST - from mistreating anyone who may be found in such a situation or otherwise.
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
July 25, 2021 at 2:08 pm
This stuff actually makes your case look even worst
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
July 25, 2021 at 2:08 pm
somehow there's always a way to justify such evils using the Bible. "Masters, give your bondservants what is just and fair"--how did these people justify the actual ownership of human beings? They treated them well, right? Food, water, shelter, structure?
"Masters". What an interesting word.
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RE: Is Christianity Inherently Supportive Of Slavery And Misogyny?
July 25, 2021 at 2:09 pm
Of course it is.
It's abundantly clear, god has a tallywhacker. A very, very small tallywhacker, but a tallywhacker nonetheless.
So anyone else who has one, is god's favorite. Especially if they are white.
And some of the lower forms of filth, should be forced to labor for such special beings.
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