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Stupid things religious people say
RE: Stupid things religious people say
Since Atheists technically can be religious...

"ViCaRiOuS rEdMpTiOn Is ImMoRaL"
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
(April 23, 2022 at 2:35 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: Since Atheists technically can be religious...

"ViCaRiOuS rEdMpTiOn Is ImMoRaL"

What’s stupid about that? Apart from your spastic use of capitals, I mean.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
Huggy may be okay with letting someone die in his place. I'm not. I believe that justice is violated if the wrong person is punished, or if the punishment is not appropriate to the severity of the crime.

This is why the probability of me becoming a Christian is a solid 0.0 - with substitutionary atonement, original sin, nonbelief as thought-crime, and the canard that a "crime" against an omnipotent deity merits eternal torture, the Christian worldview is the antithesis of morality and justice.
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
(April 23, 2022 at 6:11 pm)Astreja Wrote: Huggy may be okay with letting someone die in his place.  I'm not.  I believe that justice is violated if the wrong person is punished, or if the punishment is not appropriate to the severity of the crime.

This is why the probability of me becoming a Christian is a solid 0.0 - with substitutionary atonement, original sin, nonbelief as thought-crime, and the canard that a "crime" against an omnipotent deity merits eternal torture, the Christian worldview is the antithesis of morality and justice.

Exactly. I can take your punishment for you, but that doesn’t absolve you of your misdeed.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
Quote:Since Atheists technically can be religious...

"ViCaRiOuS rEdMpTiOn Is ImMoRaL"
Even if that were true it has nothing to do with anything  Dodgy
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
(April 23, 2022 at 6:11 pm)Astreja Wrote: Huggy may be okay with letting someone die in his place.  I'm not.

Let me stop you there... I'm sure you had dinner today, which had to sacrifice it's life to sustain yours, we place no morality on cases of survival. Therefor the same laws that apply naturally apply spiritually. As natural man has to consume food to survive, so does the spirit man, Hence why Jesus states "I am the bread that came down from heaven" and " Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you."

The only difference is, Jesus gave his life willingly, the animal y'all ate, not so much...
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
(April 23, 2022 at 6:13 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 23, 2022 at 6:11 pm)Astreja Wrote: Huggy may be okay with letting someone die in his place.  I'm not.  I believe that justice is violated if the wrong person is punished, or if the punishment is not appropriate to the severity of the crime.

This is why the probability of me becoming a Christian is a solid 0.0 - with substitutionary atonement, original sin, nonbelief as thought-crime, and the canard that a "crime" against an omnipotent deity merits eternal torture, the Christian worldview is the antithesis of morality and justice.

Exactly. I can take your punishment for you, but that doesn’t absolve you of your misdeed.

Boru

Does a pardon absolve one of their misdeeds?
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
And lots of issues here 

1. Comparing consuming animals to human sacrifice voluntary or not ...... Dodgy

2. Pardons don't demand one person take the punishment for someone else ..... Dodgy

Fail..Fail..Fail
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
(April 24, 2022 at 12:48 am)Helios Wrote: And lots of issues here 

1. Comparing consuming animals to human sacrifice voluntary or not ...... Dodgy

Both are sacrifices dummy, also aren't humans animals according to evolution?

(April 24, 2022 at 12:48 am)Helios Wrote: 2. Pardons don't demand one person take the punishment for someone else ..... Dodgy

Fail..Fail..Fail
That's not an answer to the question, furthermore Jesus wasn't demanded to do anything, He's God... who's making the demand?
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RE: Stupid things religious people say
Quote:Both are sacrifices dummy, also aren't humans animals according to evolution?
Once again comparing Human sacrifice to the consumption of animals and yes humans are animals that really aside the point ...Dummy  Hehe


Quote:That's not an answer to the question, furthermore Jesus wasn't demanded to do anything, He's God... who's making the demand?
Yes, it is. There is no human sacrafice inviolved in a pardon.
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

[Image: Canada_Flag.jpg?v=1646203843]



 “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?”
–SHIRLEY CHISHOLM


      
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