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Stupid things religious people say
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Oh look, the Christian's favorite fallacy, the No True Scotsman argument.
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It's not a NTS fallacy. Those acts are in violation of Christian teaching and belief. Plainly the acts are wrong.
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Stupid things religious people say >> anything atheists will ever say.
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(May 12, 2023 at 2:40 pm)Kingpin Wrote: You won't find that absurdity from me.  I will own the embarrassment that most that espouse to be Christians put out there.  I don't agree with them.  Just because they do something in the name of Christ does not make it Christian.  Just like the crusades.  That was not Christian.
A testament to your personal character, but not an accurate description of the faith.  If I ever get around to building a time machine I'll send you back to convince the christian crusaders they were being unchristian.
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(May 12, 2023 at 2:53 pm)Kingpin Wrote: It's not a NTS fallacy.  Those acts are in violation of Christian teaching and belief.  Plainly the acts are wrong.

Which acts are those?
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Dogs get no blessings

Pope Francis furious outburst as he ‘loses patience’ with woman who wanted her dog blessed

Pope Francis has recalled the moment he “lost his patience” with a woman who asked him to “bless my baby”, only to be presented with a small dog.

The head of the Catholic church, who has accused those who do not have children of “selfishness” despite not fathering any of his own, said he publicly lambasted the woman, telling her: “So many children are hungry and you bring me a little dog.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/176...og-blessed
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Hi,

For instance, the formal Christians are not supposed to believe all what Jesus says on their Gospel. Instead, they are supposed to believe seriously whatever the ones in charge of their Christian Churches approve as being of Christianity. Naturally, the various formal Christians around the world form the great majority among those who claim, think or believe they are disciples (students in Arabic) of Jesus.

So, it is normal that a formal Christian is supposed to believe that Jesus came just to play, before humans, the sacrificed lamb. And he had to do it to appease God’s wrath (and his own wrath, being one with the Heavenly Father) in order to save (as in Pagan’s beliefs towards their idols) whoever believes he is the Savior.
In other words, a formal Christian is not supposed seeing in Jesus a source of knowledge about the crucial natural truths that no man (mainly in these days) can repeat/preach openly and loudly as Jesus does on the Gospel. Yes, it is absurd to a formal Christian (this was clear to me every time I joined a Christian forum) seeing in Jesus the teacher of Life’s Reality (that is about how the world runs on the ground) because this goes against the interests of his powerful rich religious masters who play, before him, the representatives of Jesus on earth.
 
Conclusion:
I am afraid that the greatest deceivers (who claim believing something and do something opposing it) around the world are the powerful rich persons who claim, before their followers and the world, being disciples (students) of Jesus while they just use Jesus’ name in whatever they say or approve as being of Christianity.
 
Cheers,
Kerim
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(May 12, 2023 at 3:08 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(May 12, 2023 at 2:40 pm)Kingpin Wrote: You won't find that absurdity from me.  I will own the embarrassment that most that espouse to be Christians put out there.  I don't agree with them.  Just because they do something in the name of Christ does not make it Christian.  Just like the crusades.  That was not Christian.
A testament to your personal character, but not an accurate description of the faith.  If I ever get around to building a time machine I'll send you back to convince the christian crusaders they were being unchristian.

I'd welcome that and most likely be run through as a heretic by them, but my conscience would be clear Wink
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Hi,

By the way, the formal Christianity (as preached by Christian Churches/Denominations) and Jesus' sayings on the Gospel are different from each other.

For example, how many Christians in the world believe that John the Baptist is indeed greater than Moses and all other Jewish prophets, as Jesus is very clear about it?

How many Christians in the world know the main mission of all Jewish prophets? Isn't it just to prepare a people (Jews) for the arrival of Jesus among them? This mission was of Jesus' greatest prophet, John the Baptist. So, what could be the purpose of Judaism after the arrival of Jesus among them? But since formal Christians are not supposed to believe in many Jesus' sayings seriously, this is just one of them Smile

In brief, the formal Christians are supposed to believe, based on faith, whatever their Churches say and approve. On the other hand, an independent student (disciple in English) of Jesus ends up believing/agreeing with what Jesus says on the Gospel based on reason, not faith. Let us recall that, in general, kids start to have faith in their parents till they become adults after which they are supposed to discover what they need in life by themselves.

Cheers,
Kerim
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https://atheistforums.org/thread-49852.html
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...? John is very much a bigger figure in christian circles, and christians do think that there's no purpose to judaism anymore?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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