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Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
September 11, 2021 at 6:57 pm
Even if the universe requires a cause, so what? Why can't that cause be natural?
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
September 12, 2021 at 10:16 am
(September 8, 2021 at 5:42 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: A universe requires a cause, it can't just pop out of nothing. That's why the concept of God is necessary



That doesn't help one bit, it just pushes back the envelope one level: ie "God requires a cause, it can't just pop out of nothing."
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
September 12, 2021 at 11:15 am
But god is magic. Any other questions?
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
September 12, 2021 at 11:44 am
(September 12, 2021 at 11:15 am)no one Wrote: But god is magic. Any other questions?



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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
September 12, 2021 at 11:49 am
(September 11, 2021 at 6:57 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Even if the universe requires a cause, so what? Why can't that cause be natural?

I have posted this before on this board, but, I suppose that it deserves repeating:

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A similar proof seems to be in Griffiths (although, Professor Griffiths would likely not approve of this!):

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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
September 12, 2021 at 11:55 am (This post was last modified: September 12, 2021 at 11:56 am by Duty.)
Does that physics stuff violate "Feynman's law" ("if you think you understand QM, you don't understand QM") in your opinion, Jehanne? I'm crap at physics so can't make head nor tail of it...
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
September 12, 2021 at 11:56 am
(September 11, 2021 at 6:57 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Even if the universe requires a cause, so what? Why can't that cause be natural?

Because that would destroy his argument, lol.
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
September 12, 2021 at 12:02 pm
(September 12, 2021 at 11:55 am)Lawz Wrote: Does that physics stuff violate "Feynman's law" ("if you think you understand QM, you don't understand QM") in your opinion, Jehanne? I'm crap at physics so can't make head nor tail of it...

Shut-up and calculate (or, calculate and shut-up, or, both!)
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
September 12, 2021 at 12:05 pm
My calculator can barely multiply. How can I make it do physics?
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RE: Atheism and the existence of peanut butter
September 12, 2021 at 12:10 pm
(September 12, 2021 at 12:05 pm)Foxaire Wrote: My calculator can barely multiply. How can I make it do physics?

I'm not good at it, either; pull up a chair and feel welcome at our table.
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