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RE: Countries that speak a different language to the religion they are aligned with flag
October 1, 2021 at 10:24 am
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(September 30, 2021 at 11:16 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Well, considering that Christianity and Islam are McDonald's of religions, I don't see the fuss.
In the past, every nation seemed to have its own Gods and traditions that were tied to their nationality, but with these two it's "one size fits all".
i think they are more like multinational criminal cartels of religions.
in the past every nation had its own domineering blowhard that is associated with its identity, but with these two things are different, they were conceived as international racketeering and intellectual drag trafficking organizations, and so they have duly become.
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RE: Countries that speak a different language to the religion they are aligned with flag
October 1, 2021 at 10:45 am
First of all, the New Testament was originally written in Koine Greek, not Hebrew. Later translations were Latin and not until much later English.
Also, flags represent countries and don't necessarily reflect the country's religion. They can, but they don't have to. Certainly many don't suggest any religious affiliation.
Language is also divorced from religion in that religious ideas can be translated into any language. Language is strongly cultural and people are reluctant to lose cultural ties.
And lastly, for religiously diverse countries, as England is, why would language or their flag be consistent with any one religion since there is an accepted diversity of religion. Yes, England has an official religion, but in most ways that is little more than ceremonial now.
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RE: Countries that speak a different language to the religion they are aligned with flag
October 1, 2021 at 11:06 am
I don’t much care if countries want to put martyred Jesus on their flag. Considering the amount of harm religion causes, flags are a weirdly trivial thing to moan about.
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RE: Countries that speak a different language to the religion they are aligned with flag
October 1, 2021 at 11:28 am
I agree. I think we should replace the stars and stripes with a picture of a Mexican and a White Supremacist.
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RE: Countries that speak a different language to the religion they are aligned with flag
October 1, 2021 at 11:41 am
If we wanted the US flag to be truly representative of what we are, it should be a pile of bodies, mostly indigenous Americans, blacks and Mexicans with a white guy wearing a powdered wig standing on top of them and giving the world the middle finger. Now that's American!
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RE: Countries that speak a different language to the religion they are aligned with flag
October 1, 2021 at 2:34 pm
Never really understood the whole "flag" thing...
As a Brit, I am always surprised by the number of flags I see in the USA, it seems that the whole country is so insecure it needs to be constantly reminding itself who it is
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RE: Countries that speak a different language to the religion they are aligned with flag
October 1, 2021 at 5:22 pm
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There are just under 200 nations and over 7000 spoken languages.
My point is this - relationship between national identity and language is largely accidental.
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RE: Countries that speak a different language to the religion they are aligned with flag
October 1, 2021 at 7:49 pm
(September 30, 2021 at 8:19 pm)UniverseCaptain Wrote: Does anyone think that a country with a Christian or Islam flag that doesn't speak Hebrew or Arabic as an official language is performing a strange double standard considering Islam was written in Arabic and the Bible in Hebrew? Some might not want to simplify it to this extent to consider it the same as current language, but it is an idea.
The Bible was written in a variety of languages including Syrian, Greek, and Roman, The Hebrews wanted to have little to do with the cult that hijacked their scripture.
Similarly, the Hebrews were unlikely to want to have much to do with a cross. That particular torture implement was a symbol of Roman imperialism and oppression, though the Romans hardly had a monopoly on that bit of nastiness.
It's a bit like wondering if folks with stars on their flags have to twinkle merrily before ending their lives in a thermonuclear detonation. I dread to think what the maple leaf means for Canadians.
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RE: Countries that speak a different language to the religion they are aligned with flag
October 1, 2021 at 8:27 pm
Does anyone think Syria wouldn’t be a state sponsor of terrorism if they had a different flag?
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RE: Countries that speak a different language to the religion they are aligned with flag
October 1, 2021 at 10:46 pm
(October 1, 2021 at 11:41 am)Spongebob Wrote: If we wanted the US flag to be truly representative of what we are, it should be a pile of bodies, mostly indigenous Americans, blacks and Mexicans with a white guy wearing a powdered wig standing on top of them and giving the world the middle finger. Now that's American! Cold blue steel streaked with red, a little white star for every fiefdom we carved out of the continent...something like that?
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