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RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
November 2, 2021 at 4:40 pm
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ehhhhhh?
Tell you this, somebody points a weapon at me never having thought about how it could....you know...kill me, and there's very little I might do to them after that that requires some ethically positive explanation.
If, like clint eastwood's iconic character...., I killed you..... your wife, and all her bridge playing friends..you probably only have yourself to blame. It's not as if I've ever woken up looking for some reason to kill some other motherfuckers, after all....as dipshits might insist is always available to some dipshit killer......
As Weird Al put it..I've never hurt a man who didn't deserve it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
November 2, 2021 at 4:57 pm
(November 2, 2021 at 4:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: ehhhhhh?
Tell you this, somebody points a weapon at me never having thought about how it could....you know...kill me, and there's very little I might do to them after that that requires some ethically positive explanation.
If, like clint eastwood's iconic character...., I killed you..... your wife, and all her bridge playing friends..you probably only have yourself to blame. It's not as if I've ever woken up looking for some reason to kill some other motherfuckers, after all....as dipshits might insist is always available to some dipshit killer......
As Weird Al put it..I've never hurt a man who didn't deserve it.
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RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
November 2, 2021 at 5:05 pm
You know.... that guy sued them, even though,in the interim.....and as an adult....he posed for another version of that picture?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
November 2, 2021 at 5:11 pm
(November 2, 2021 at 5:05 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You know.... that guy sued them, even though,in the interim.....and as an adult....he posed for another version of that picture?
According to Dave Grohl, Spencer Elden (the nitwit behind the lawsuit) has a Nirvana tattoo. ‘Life-long emotional damage’ me arse.
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RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
November 2, 2021 at 6:18 pm
(November 2, 2021 at 5:05 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You know.... that guy sued them, even though,in the interim.....and as an adult....he posed for another version of that picture?
Parody and satire and criticism are covered under "fair use". As long as you are not passing yourself off as the real artist, person, business, whatever, you can use their images or words. Basically when someone makes a bullshit lawsuit over those things, they are merely arguing they don't like being offended.
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RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
November 2, 2021 at 6:28 pm
(November 2, 2021 at 6:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (November 2, 2021 at 5:05 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You know.... that guy sued them, even though,in the interim.....and as an adult....he posed for another version of that picture?
Parody and satire and criticism are covered under "fair use". As long as you are not passing yourself off as the real artist, person, business, whatever, you can use their images or words. Basically when someone makes a bullshit lawsuit over those things, they are merely arguing they don't like being offended.
What are you on about? The lawsuit has nothing to do with parody, satire or criticism.
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RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
November 2, 2021 at 6:45 pm
(November 2, 2021 at 6:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 2, 2021 at 6:18 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Parody and satire and criticism are covered under "fair use". As long as you are not passing yourself off as the real artist, person, business, whatever, you can use their images or words. Basically when someone makes a bullshit lawsuit over those things, they are merely arguing they don't like being offended.
What are you on about? The lawsuit has nothing to do with parody, satire or criticism.
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What? If someone sued Weird Al over his album cover, I think that has everything to do with it.
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RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
November 2, 2021 at 6:47 pm
(November 2, 2021 at 6:45 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (November 2, 2021 at 6:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: What are you on about? The lawsuit has nothing to do with parody, satire or criticism.
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What? If someone sued Weird Al over his album cover, I think that has everything to do with it.
The Nirvana cover was of a baby swimming naked. He is grown now and is suing.
Nothing to do with Weird Al...everything to do with weird you.
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RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
November 2, 2021 at 7:17 pm
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(November 2, 2021 at 6:45 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (November 2, 2021 at 6:28 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: What are you on about? The lawsuit has nothing to do with parody, satire or criticism.
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What? If someone sued Weird Al over his album cover, I think that has everything to do with it.
What awty said. No one is suing Yankovic (not over this, at least). Spencer Elden, who was the baby on the original cover, is suing the surviving members of Nirvana because his image was used without his permission (even though he was four months old at the time).
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RE: Alec Baldwin Shooting
November 2, 2021 at 7:27 pm
(November 2, 2021 at 7:17 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (November 2, 2021 at 6:45 pm)Brian37 Wrote: What? If someone sued Weird Al over his album cover, I think that has everything to do with it.
What awty said. No one is suing Yankovic (not over this, at least). Spencer Elden, who was the baby on the original cover, is suing the surviving members of Nirvana because his image was used without his permission (even though he was four months old at the time).
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Weird Al only parodied the original cover of the Nirvana Album. Now if you are talking about the original Nirvana Album jacket, that is a separate issue. I don't think we are in disagreement.
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