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RE: Here's What Happened to the RCC....
October 30, 2021 at 5:18 pm
(October 29, 2021 at 12:59 pm)ronedee Wrote: (October 28, 2021 at 8:05 am)Helios Wrote: Ah yes another idiot who wants to blame gays for the catholic churches problems rather than you know pedophiles (because having sex with boys doesn't mean your gay and most pedophiles show no interest in adult men and show an interest in adult women)
Obviously most of you haven't watched the video. Which makes you look like idiots, frankly.
Stay in your first dimension atheist cocoons. That will be your final resting place anyway.
I watched the whole video. It is garbage.
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RE: Here's What Happened to the RCC....
October 30, 2021 at 6:30 pm
(October 29, 2021 at 12:59 pm)ronedee Wrote: (October 28, 2021 at 8:05 am)Helios Wrote: Ah yes another idiot who wants to blame gays for the catholic churches problems rather than you know pedophiles (because having sex with boys doesn't mean your gay and most pedophiles show no interest in adult men and show an interest in adult women)
Obviously most of you haven't watched the video. Which makes you look like idiots, frankly.
Stay in your first dimension atheist cocoons. That will be your final resting place anyway.
Interesting...you think that if we don't watch something you post we are idiots?
Who died and left you in charge?
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RE: Here's What Happened to the RCC....
October 30, 2021 at 6:31 pm
(October 30, 2021 at 6:30 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Interesting...you think that if we don't watch something you post we are idiots?
Who died and left you in charge?
Jesus.
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RE: Here's What Happened to the RCC....
October 30, 2021 at 6:39 pm
(October 30, 2021 at 6:31 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: (October 30, 2021 at 6:30 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Interesting...you think that if we don't watch something you post we are idiots?
Who died and left you in charge?
Jesus.
The Virgin Mary holds more sway than Jebus.
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RE: Here's What Happened to the RCC....
October 30, 2021 at 6:41 pm
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So the Catholics are having a shitfit over Biden meeting with the pope because Biden is not 100% against abortion. I guess that the molesting of altar boys thing doesn't play into that so they are okay with which hill they've choosen to die on.
Fuck, I'm glad I got away from those jerks.
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RE: Here's What Happened to the RCC....
October 30, 2021 at 8:17 pm
(October 30, 2021 at 6:41 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: So the Catholics are having a shitfit over Biden meeting with the pope because Biden is not 100% against abortion. I guess that the molesting of altar boys thing doesn't play into that so they are okay with which hill they've choosen to die on.
Fuck, I'm glad I got away from those jerks.
I agree with the abortion thing. However I think bringing in the child sex abuse is Tu Quoque
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RE: Here's What Happened to the RCC....
October 30, 2021 at 8:29 pm
(October 30, 2021 at 8:17 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote: (October 30, 2021 at 6:41 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: So the Catholics are having a shitfit over Biden meeting with the pope because Biden is not 100% against abortion. I guess that the molesting of altar boys thing doesn't play into that so they are okay with which hill they've choosen to die on.
Fuck, I'm glad I got away from those jerks.
I agree with the abortion thing. However I think bringing in the child sex abuse is Tu Quoque
Either sex is for procreation or it isn't. The church needs to pick a side. Are they protecting unborn kids but altar boys are fair game? And if sex is for procreation than how is it okay for grown men to have sex with boys?
Don't really care if you don't think my stance is correct...or whatever your criteria is.
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RE: Here's What Happened to the RCC....
October 30, 2021 at 9:08 pm
(October 30, 2021 at 8:29 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (October 30, 2021 at 8:17 pm)Oldandeasilyconfused Wrote: I agree with the abortion thing. However I think bringing in the child sex abuse is Tu Quoque
Either sex is for procreation or it isn't. The church needs to pick a side. Are they protecting unborn kids but altar boys are fair game? And if sex is for procreation than how is it okay for grown men to have sex with boys?
Don't really care if you don't think my stance is correct...or whatever your criteria is.
Nonono I wasn't criticising your stand, only the way you presented it, which is bit sloppy imo, and I was being a noodge
Glad you don't care what I think, no reason you should. I might also be wrong, I'm not a strong philosopher. There are plenty of folks here to pull me up if I'm in error. 
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RE: Here's What Happened to the RCC....
October 31, 2021 at 3:41 am
(October 29, 2021 at 12:32 pm)ronedee Wrote: I suggest watching the video, which documents the "style" since at least the late 1940's and through the 1960's.
You mean that definitely unbiased and totally reliable video by "The Church Militant"? Lovely name. Tells me everything I need to know.
Quote:Vatican II, became the "open door" to Liberalism in the church, and the continued corruption and tolerance of abuse within the church.
So you think that liberals are the problem with the RCC? Nuff said.
Quote:The amount of gays in the clergy is enormous.
What a shock. We'd never have guessed that using the clergy as a dumping ground for embarrassing relatives would have any lasting consequences. Especially after you made them nominally celibate and had them run around in "clerical robes" all day.
But "gays" aren't your problem. Pedophiles are. Sorry, my mistake. Raging bigotry and a room temperature IQ are your problem.
Quote:Because the church has been infiltrated for almost a century. And the crimes have been covered up.
The RCC has been so irredeemably corrupt for millennia that infiltrating it would have been an improvement. It started off as the old Roman Empire and spent 1500 years with little to no oversight and near absolute power. Its crimes are only now beginning to be exposed. You'll note that it is the secular authorities doing the work, dragging your church kicking and screaming out of the dark ages to face modern justice. It'd be hilariously naive of you to suggest that this is a problem of the last few decades if it weren't so tragic.
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RE: Here's What Happened to the RCC....
October 31, 2021 at 8:02 am
(October 29, 2021 at 1:05 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I watched most of the video. It's just a bunch of rhetorically-loaded jackassery. I feel like an idiot for having watched the video. If I could somehow un-watch it, maybe I could reclaim a portion of the intelligence I lost.
It's propaganda. You realize this, don't you, ronedee? You should approach it more skeptically than you're doing.
Did you read the vid comment section? Hilariously disturbing.
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