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Trump is going to be reelected....
#91
RE: Trump is going to be reelected....
(January 14, 2022 at 8:44 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(January 14, 2022 at 8:27 am)brewer Wrote: When there is a charismatic person involved Ahri's disorder has a difficult time telling good from bad, right from wrong, sane from insane, ................. It's a need to believe, rational or not.
I won't deny that. But I don't place nearly as much value on rationality as an atheist would. Facts are trifling things. Give me someone who will let me dream.

I love fantasy, too, dragons, warp drives, fairies, etc.; it can all be very entertaining . Doesn't make any of it real. Absent entertainment, there is a real opportunity cost with investing one's time and energy in such things as opposed to doing something else. Going to church, for instance, would mean not doing something else, things that I really want to do but don't have time to do.
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#92
RE: Trump is going to be reelected....
(January 14, 2022 at 3:23 am)Ahriman Wrote: Sucks to have so little pride in your beliefs that you can't even share them with a stranger on the Internet.

Right, so I’ll ask you again since you didn’t answer. Could you elaborate on what it means to be loyal to your country?
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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#93
RE: Trump is going to be reelected....
(January 14, 2022 at 8:44 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(January 14, 2022 at 8:27 am)brewer Wrote: When there is a charismatic person involved Ahri's disorder has a difficult time telling good from bad, right from wrong, sane from insane, ................. It's a need to believe, rational or not.
I won't deny that. But I don't place nearly as much value on rationality as an atheist would. Facts are trifling things. Give me someone who will let me dream.

That, in a short space, explains a lot about why our country is in the bad place it is.

People want to have pleasant fantasies instead of dealing with unpleasant realities.

The problem is that facts don't go away simply because you ignore them. And eventually, you have to wake up from the dream.
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#94
RE: Trump is going to be reelected....
(January 14, 2022 at 1:34 pm)polymath257 Wrote:
(January 14, 2022 at 8:44 am)Ahriman Wrote: I won't deny that. But I don't place nearly as much value on rationality as an atheist would. Facts are trifling things. Give me someone who will let me dream.

That, in a short space, explains a lot about why our country is in the bad place it is.

People want to have pleasant fantasies instead of dealing with unpleasant realities.

The problem is that facts don't go away simply because you ignore them. And eventually, you have to wake up from the dream.
Maybe everything is so fucked that you might as well dream anyway? Yeah that's the correct answer.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#95
RE: Trump is going to be reelected....
(January 14, 2022 at 1:43 pm)Ahriman Wrote:
(January 14, 2022 at 1:34 pm)polymath257 Wrote: That, in a short space, explains a lot about why our country is in the bad place it is.

People want to have pleasant fantasies instead of dealing with unpleasant realities.

The problem is that facts don't go away simply because you ignore them. And eventually, you have to wake up from the dream.
Maybe everything is so fucked that you might as well dream anyway? Yeah that's the correct answer.

Clearly not. Maybe taking responsibility and trying to change things is a better approach?

Yes, *that* is the correct answer.
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#96
RE: Trump is going to be reelected....
(January 14, 2022 at 1:48 pm)polymath257 Wrote:
(January 14, 2022 at 1:43 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Maybe everything is so fucked that you might as well dream anyway? Yeah that's the correct answer.

Clearly not. Maybe taking responsibility and trying to change things is a better approach?

Yes, *that* is the correct answer.
And you think, that for those of us who are not in leadership positions, this can be accomplished without a strong leader to follow and support?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#97
RE: Trump is going to be reelected....
If everything is fucked, then why play along as though it isn’t, supporting strong leaders™ that you yourself know won’t deliver and will harm?

If that’s dreaming, it can only be dreaming about fucking some other poor fucker over for nothing in return.

At any rate, it seems to me that if you just need a strongman you oughta find one, and stop voting for feeble old bullshitters.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#98
RE: Trump is going to be reelected....
(January 14, 2022 at 2:15 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: If everything is fucked, then why play along as though it isn’t, supporting strong leaders™ that you yourself know won’t deliver and will harm?  

If that’s dreaming, it can only be dreaming about fucking some other poor fucker over for nothing in return.

At any rate, it seems to me that if you just need a strongman  you oughta find one, and stop voting for feeble old bullshitters.
Oh trust me, I am waiting very patiently.
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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#99
RE: Trump is going to be reelected....
(January 14, 2022 at 4:40 am)Deesse23 Wrote:
(January 14, 2022 at 12:16 am)Ahriman Wrote: Being loyal to the country (or countries) you identify with.
Your honor is loyalty, right?

Not that Ahriman will understand the allusion. While they are a nazi, they are also a particularly stupid example of that breed.
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RE: Trump is going to be reelected....
I mean, say what you want about the tenants of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
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