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Russia and Ukraine
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 (January 7, 2026 at 11:04 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: They're in a weird place too. There was disruption as the invasion went tits up - but they've since figured out a way to maintain their revenue streams within the war environment..and it would probably be a pain in the ass to retool again so soon. At this point, their economy is probably so distorted that recovery will take at least a generation, if not more -- not to mention a political sea-change. 
Russia says foreign troops in Ukraine would be targets after UK and France pledge post-ceasefire deployment
So this means that Russians will be shooting at each other because Russian troops ARE the foreign troops in Ukraine.
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(January 8, 2026 at 4:34 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: So this means that Russians will be shooting at each other because Russian troops ARE the foreign troops in Ukraine. I'm pretty sure they already are shooting at each other sometimes. 
Russian sadsacks are bitching online about ukraine obliterating their last position in kupiansk.
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 RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 9, 2026 at 12:32 am
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2026 at 12:32 am by Belacqua.)
(January 7, 2026 at 4:55 pm)Leonardo17 Wrote: The French President Macron and the British Premier Keir Starmer both made a speech and there was an American delegation there too. Moscow has not yet shown any sign that it would approve the deal. But there is a drafted peace plan for Ukraine right now. Merz just announced that British and French troops could only be stationed in Ukraine with Russia's consent.  RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 9, 2026 at 12:46 am
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2026 at 12:47 am by Fireball.)
(January 9, 2026 at 12:32 am)Belacqua Wrote:(January 7, 2026 at 4:55 pm)Leonardo17 Wrote: The French President Macron and the British Premier Keir Starmer both made a speech and there was an American delegation there too. Moscow has not yet shown any sign that it would approve the deal. But there is a drafted peace plan for Ukraine right now. Ya'll ought to just go there and protect Russian interests, already. Put your money where your mouth is.
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Ukraine will never be safe so long as Russia has a veto. Even Putin won't like this, because it will freeze Russians lines and, while allowed refit/resupply/re-equipment, it will also draw a sharp line under his next invasion.
Putin can stop this war on any day with one order. He won't do this now. (January 9, 2026 at 12:46 am)Fireball Wrote:(January 9, 2026 at 12:32 am)Belacqua Wrote: Merz just announced that British and French troops could only be stationed in Ukraine with Russia's consent. Isn't "ya'll" plural? Do you mean me? I am the one who wants peace. Also, Kyrylo Shevchenko, former governor of the National Bank of Ukraine, has announced that Ukraine's main steel plant has shut down due to lack of electricity. Russia has been hitting the power system hard. Without steel exports Ukraine will lose a significant source of income. And several sources are reporting that Ukraine's main gas storage facility has been hit by an Oreshnik missile and severely damaged. It's not clear yet how bad it is, but this holds a large percentage of the gas that Ukraine needs for the winter, and exports to the rest of Europe. Taking it off line would seriously downgrade Ukraine's energy and income. Belacqua Wrote:I am the one who wants peace. No. You want Ukraine to capitulate. Belacqua Wrote:Ukraine's main steel plant has shut down due to lack of electricity. Russia has been hitting the power system hard. At the same time, Ukraine hit the Salyut plant in Moscow that produces aircraft engines. That's war. And Russia’s losing streak is not coming to an end. Like the new super sanctions that Trump introduced towards Russia that even the Iraqi government nationalized the stake of Russia’s Lukoil. Belacqua Wrote:Without steel exports Ukraine will lose a significant source of income. They'll manage. Certainly not a reason to surrender to bloodthirsty Putin.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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