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Russia and Ukraine
RE: Russia and Ukraine
Quote:Ukraine's army has been severely weakened, and they are admitting publicly that they don't have enough ammunition. They are begging.

Meanwhile Russia is poised to send 300,000 new troops into Ukraine -- perhaps as many as half a million.

The US has so far blocked efforts at a negotiated settlement. The former PM of Israel has said that he nearly had a deal which America prevented. But not negotiating peace at this point would be insane
1. Ukraine is still winning the war. Russia has had to beg for ammunition too. And having more men doesn't mean they will win.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/11/02...s-00064611

2. Ukraine wouldn't have any issues if Russia had not invaded.

3. Negotiating peace with Putin is like sticking your John Thomas in a viper's mouth. 

So again your insane blather is just that. Russia will lose plain and simple.
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(February 17, 2023 at 8:03 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Perhaps you think that a negotiated settlement with Russia is possible.  

Should big, bad America give Ukraine to Russia?  You seem to think that what's going on has nothing to do with anyone but the US.

After we (USians) give Ukraine away, which other countries should we wrap up in a bow and gift to Putin?
Oh, that's easy. They will want Moldova next 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/2/15...flaring-up

And then another country and then another country and then another country .....This sounds familiar... Dodgy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement
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Also apparently General Miliey is a good source when he says what Bel wants. But when he makes it clear Russia has lost the war Bel says the opposite.

https://www.businessinsider.com/top-us-g...war-2023-2
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Remember all Bel's blather comes from someone who didn't even know the Honeywell AGT1500 was a multi-fuel engine. 
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
(February 17, 2023 at 7:57 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Ukraine's army has been severely weakened, and they are admitting publicly that they don't have enough ammunition. They are begging.

This is not news. The Ukrainians are facing human-wave attacks.

(February 17, 2023 at 7:57 pm)Belacqua Wrote: Meanwhile Russia is poised to send 300,000 new troops into Ukraine -- perhaps as many as half a million.

New, raw recruits, untrained, wielding Mosin-Nagants ... in human waves. Lotsa grieving Russian mothers on the other end of the telegram.

(February 17, 2023 at 7:57 pm)Belacqua Wrote: The US has so far blocked efforts at a negotiated settlement. The former PM of Israel has said that he nearly had a deal which America prevented. But not negotiating peace at this point would be insane.

https://www.thenation.com/article/world/...ation-war/

Why should anyone advise the Ukrainians to surrender? They're beating the dogshit out of the Russians.

Wait until the Ukrainian counteroffensive comes. That's why they're husbanding their forces. And when they succeed, you will once more fall silent just like you did in October. You're a fair-weather friend.

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The thing that tickles me, is that there's zero doubt whatsoever that if we were to hang ukraine out to dry, this would inevitably become another line of anti-american angst in some future conflict with the next imperial potentate.
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Russian Offensive Doomed to Fail, Retired U.S. General Predicts

Ukrainian officials have said they believe Russia will time a fresh offensive in eastern Ukraine to coincide with the first anniversary of the outbreak of full-scale war. Next week will mark 12 months since Russia launched its invasion on February 24, 2022.

But Western analysts have evaluated Russia's army to be unprepared for such a push in the eastern Donbas region. On Sunday, the British Defense Ministry said the Russian army was suffering from a lack of trained personnel and resources along from the front lines as well as from poor coordination.

Moscow's "untrained forces" have been "given shoddy equipment," placed under "poor leadership" and have been deployed to the front lines "without an understanding of what they were to do," Hertling said.

Moscow's recruits in eastern Ukraine are "not ready for any kind of offensive, large or small," according to Hertling, making them "cannon fodder."

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-offensi...ar-1781655



'This isn't Russian roulette, it's like the suicide of lemmings': Putin's marine brigade of 5,000 men is all but destroyed in one of the most brutal battles since the start of the war 

Russia has suffered some of the heaviest military losses in a single battle since the start of the war after elite units repeatedly tried to storm a fortified coal mining town in broad daylight.

Ukrainian officials claim huge numbers of enemy troops have been killed, wounded and captured in failed attempts to seize the Donetsk hamlet of Vuhledar.

They say that one marine brigade of 5,000 men was almost entirely destroyed, for the third time since the Kremlin launched the full-scale invasion nearly a year ago.

The carnage – and loss of at least 130 armoured vehicles – led Russian hardliners to call for public show trials to punish incompetent generals responsible for the repeated battlefield massacres of their soldiers.

‘Some of them are complete cretins – all the mistakes that were made before were repeated,’ said Igor Girkin, a Russian former intelligence officer who helped stage the pro-Moscow 2014 insurgencies in Donetsk and Crimea. Girkin complained that Russian soldiers were mown down ‘like turkeys in a shooting range’ as Ukrainians held higher positions.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...e-11746903
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The Russian army is such a joke. It's like the Police Academy movies set in the army and for real.



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RE: Russia and Ukraine
The claim made by Bel (and others) that the reason for the war was potential NATO expansion is purest bullshit - if that was truly the reason, Russia would have invaded Finland by now.

The real reason is that Ukrainian identity sticks in Putin’s crop.

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(February 18, 2023 at 12:33 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The thing that tickles me, is that there's zero doubt whatsoever that if we were to hang ukraine out to dry, this would inevitably become another line of anti-american angst in some future conflict with the next imperial potentate.

It's the damned if we do and damned if we don't rule for the haters of all things USian.
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