Russia and Ukraine

[arewethereyet]

Russia invaded Ukraine
Ukraine is fighting back
News at 11

[The Architect Of Fate]

So no point at all ...Gotcha

[Leonardo17]

Here is something I really hopped they wouldn’t do. I have heard about this damn several months ago. I remember hearing that Russian could blow up this damn to make life difficult for the people of Kherson and all Ukrainian troops stationed there. The main idea was that it would be a major escalation of the war because it would threaten the water supplies of the Zaporijia Nuclear Plant.
 
They did it anyway:  https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-accus...54750.html
 

[The Grand Nudger]

It was going to happen, sooner or later, if not by explosives then because the russians holding it simply weren't communicating with the rest of the lock and turbine operators on the system, being held by ukraine. It does russia no favors from a military or occupation standpoint. It's de-mining their side of the dnipro and threatening crimean water supplies.

The backstory here is that russian forces believe they're being attacked everywhere all at once by nato supersoldiers. Russian telegram is lit up with fabulist conflicting reports - ranging from the total destruction of the ukrainian army to an ongoing drive that may not stop until it reaches fucking moscow, lol. I wouldn't put it passed some cut-off field promoted officer blowing it in a panic outside of any orders and running for his life.

[WinterHold]

America itself is so exhausted and facing its final years in my perspective.
Probably that's why the global anti-American alliance (i.e Russia, China, Iran, North Korea) entered a global war against the U.S & its allies with Russia leading the war in the European front.


The U.S is the one being exhausted the most here, don't forget that a Russian agent became the president of the U.S even (cough cough; Trump).

The only “Real” country in that alliance is China. And yes, they can become a big problem in the future. The rest of them are basically nothing. And yes, huge resources are being lost here. No one is being exhausted. Still. The planet is set to Exceed 1.5 degree starting from this summer. So if you are Chinese, think of it for a moment

You mean "the only super-power".
Unless you think that wasted money and men, soldiers and even political power are not exhaustion, then you are hugely mistaken.

Lots of powers are being exhausted, economy experts must tell you...or job owners.

[WinterHold]

No, America on the decline since it stole the world's gold reserves and introduced the Petrodollar instead.
Since that day the curse of God began.

Didn't you read this verse from the Quran before?



A gold thieve, a killer, and above all deals in usury ? so the decline started way way way back.

I think you know what I'm saying while I'm reading this post

It's not a respected tactic to talk in "puzzles" that nobody understands.
Please, elaborate so we understand you.

[The Grand Nudger]

The only “Real” country in that alliance is China. And yes, they can become a big problem in the future. The rest of them are basically nothing. And yes, huge resources are being lost here. No one is being exhausted. Still. The planet is set to Exceed 1.5 degree starting from this summer. So if you are Chinese, think of it for a moment

You mean "the only super-power".
Unless you think that wasted money and men, soldiers and even political power are not exhaustion, then you are hugely mistaken.

Lots of powers are being exhausted, economy experts must tell you...or job owners.

Wasted by whom?  The us isn't losing soldiers and weapons contracts are money makers.  Ukraine is unlikely to believe that men dying to secure it's existence is a waste and they never had any dollars to lose.  

If you're crying into your cup about the terrible loss and waste to russia - I think that ship has sailed - but you'd have a point. It's almost as if the entire ruling class in russia is a traitor to russia and it's people, or something. Where are all of russias fair weather friends anyway? Russia is over there setting fire to whatever they can as they bolt for the hills and not a peep from them.

[WinterHold]

You mean "the only super-power".
Unless you think that wasted money and men, soldiers and even political power are not exhaustion, then you are hugely mistaken.

Lots of powers are being exhausted, economy experts must tell you...or job owners.

Wasted by whom?  The us isn't losing soldiers and weapons contracts are money makers.  Ukraine is unlikely to believe that men dying to secure it's existence is a waste and they never had any dollars to lose.  

If you're crying into your cup about the terrible loss and waste to russia - I think that ship has sailed - but you'd have a point.  It's almost as if the entire ruling class in russia is a traitor to russia and it's people, or something.  Where are all of russias fair weather friends anyway?  Russia is over there setting fire to whatever they can as they bolt for the hills and not a peep from them.

Actually, I won't hide my shock that the West is fighting Russia now after it closed its eyes (and even aided) in Russian massacres in Syria.
I just find it hilarious that the Russian snake bit the west in the arse and began to treat westerners like it treats Syrians.

You know, Russians torture and kill at will in Syria, but the west kept silent about it for years and years, what's so special about Ukraine now? or Syrians weren't "human" enough for the west?

Gotcha, they weren't "blue-eyed blondes" like Ukranians I guess:






To understand how I feel, imagine a guy being hit by bullies, while another guy is safe and even aiding the bullies.
So the beaten dude would keep saying: "why me why me why me?"
Then tries to rise. To get surprised by the other guy kicking him to the ground again.
When he screams, the other guy laughs and call him "terrorist".
But someday, the bullies turn to the other guy and begin beating him.

Wouldn't you feel relieved?
But then comes atomic bombs.

[HappySkeptic]

Winterhold, if the U.S. had intervened more in Syria, you would be blasting them for their proxy wars or expansionism. Everything the U.S. does is bad - I get it.

When a country goes to war, they do so for self interest. Full stop. One can agree with those interests, or in the international rules that justify the conflict, or not.

With Ukraine, I selfishly do not want Russia becoming a renewed Empire, because it makes the world more dangerous, and Russia never will be a democratic state. I also believe that the post-WWII rules that a country can't increase its own borders through war is a valid one (though proxy wars still seem to be allowed).

[The Grand Nudger]

Silent? The us has been pulling the firearm about russian bullshit in syria the whole time Winter. Try a quick google search. They sure as hell don't feel like we were helping them...maybe because we fucking annihilated russians in syria?

I find it fascinating that with so much actual bullshit the us gets up to all over the world, islamists like you can't seem to grab onto that, preferring to invent shit to rile themselves up.