Russia and Ukraine

[The Grand Nudger]

I worry they never recover. That the master strategist keeps them up to this until he dies in office, at which point china swallows up russias eastern half, ukraine claims the western half, and whats left of russia proper turns into a shithole with global ngos onsite delivering food and heating fuel.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I worry they never recover.  That the master strategist keeps them up to this until he dies in office, at which point china swallows up russias eastern half, ukraine claims the western half, and whats left of russia proper turns into a shithole with global ngos onsite delivering food and heating fuel.

That is entirely possible. I was arguing the best-case scenario.

[Leonardo17]

I think Russia will still be Russia. I don’t think anyone has any interest in taking territory from Russia. I’ve only heard that China might be interested in reclaiming some territories it lost to Russia in the 19th century. But otherwise, even South-Korea is not interested in a reunification with North-Korea at this point because it would require a lot of money to do reintegrate a completely undeveloped area into their own geography.
 
Yet I cannot say the same for Putin. He recently murdered the director of a men-only tourism agency:
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-man-a...09324.html
 
This hatred toward homosexuals is very typical of fascist leaders. Even under communism there was no such prosecution toward homosexuals in Russia.

[The Grand Nudger]

There was, ofc, it didn't come from nowhere.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I think Russia will still be Russia. I don’t think anyone has any interest in taking territory from Russia. I’ve only heard that China might be interested in reclaiming some territories it lost to Russia in the 19th century. But otherwise, even South-Korea is not interested in a reunification with North-Korea at this point because it would require a lot of money to do reintegrate a completely undeveloped area into their own geography.
 
Yet I cannot say the same for Putin. He recently murdered the director of a men-only tourism agency:
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-man-a...09324.html
 
This hatred toward homosexuals is very typical of fascist leaders. Even under communism there was no such prosecution toward homosexuals in Russia.

That is absolutely untrue.

Under Joseph Stalin, the Soviet Union recriminalized homosexuality in a decree signed in 1933. The new Article 121, which punished "muzhelozhstvo" with imprisonment for up tofive years, saw raids and arrests. Female homosexuals were sent to mental institutions. The decree was part of a broader campaign against "deviant" behavior and "Western degeneracy"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_Russia

Boru

[Leonardo17]

I think Russia will still be Russia. I don’t think anyone has any interest in taking territory from Russia. I’ve only heard that China might be interested in reclaiming some territories it lost to Russia in the 19th century. But otherwise, even South-Korea is not interested in a reunification with North-Korea at this point because it would require a lot of money to do reintegrate a completely undeveloped area into their own geography.
 
Yet I cannot say the same for Putin. He recently murdered the director of a men-only tourism agency:
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russian-man-a...09324.html
 
This hatred toward homosexuals is very typical of fascist leaders. Even under communism there was no such prosecution toward homosexuals in Russia.

That is absolutely untrue.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_history_in_Russia

Boru

The Soviet government of the  (RSFSR) decriminalised homosexuality in December 1917, following the October Revolution and the discarding of the Legal Code of Tsarist Russia

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Official Soviet policy in both the RSFSR and the wider USSR in the 1920s on homosexuality fluctuated between toleration and support, attempts at legal equality and social rights for homosexual people, to open examples of state hostility against homosexuals and state attempts to classify homosexuality as "a mental disorder to be cured"

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The Bolsheviks also rescinded Tsarist legal bans on homosexual civil and political rights, especially in the area of state employment. In 1918, , a homosexual man who kept his homosexuality hidden, was appointed as People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs of the RSFSR. In 1923, Chicherin was also appointed People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs of the USSR, a position he held until 1930

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under Stalin, LGBT themes and issues faced increasing official government censorship and a uniformly harsher policy across the entire Soviet Union. 

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After Stalin died in 1953, he was replaced by , who proceeded to liberalize the Stalin era laws regarding marriage, divorce and abortion, but the anti-gay criminal law remained

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In the late 1950s some Soviet jurists attempted to decriminalise consensual sodomy. On 23 July 1959 a committee of Soviet jurists convened to discuss and propose changes to the new RSFSR republican criminal code. Two members of the committee proposed to eliminate the law penalising consensual sodomy, yet their proposal was not supported by other members of the committee.

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Thousands of people were imprisoned for homosexuality and government censorship of homosexuality and gay rights did not begin to slowly relax until the early 1970s,

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A poll conducted in 1989 reported that homosexuals were the most hated group in Russian society and that 30 percent of those polled felt that homosexuals should be liquidated

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So Soviet “science” is a bit different from Western Science. It is subjected to a political order that already knows the truth about everything. So Homosexuals were perceived as some sort of “sick” people. But this is not really the fault of the regime. Back when I was a kid (80’s, 90’s) many people shared this view. (In my experience) a shift from tolerance to understanding did not happen here until well into the 21st century.
 
But otherwise I think that these things existed, people knew that they existed and they would simply pretend not to see it. That’s what happened in many other places too. Even in Western Europe, you would attract attention if you held the hand of your partner in a public space (I’m talking about the mid 90’s).
 
But Putin is actually prosecuting them, scapegoating them. That more similar to Hitler than it is even to Stalin.
 
I mean who murders the director of a men-only travel agency?
 

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Trump is not going to solve the war in Ukraine in 24 hours:
 
https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-reject...28999.html
 

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

^How is the regime criminalizing homosexuality to the point of kicking down doors, arresting gays, sending gay men to prison, and gay women to mental institutions NOT the fault of the regime? 

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

Russias finance ministers are arguing against a complete bank freeze and advocating for a cyprus solution to their money problems instead. Worked great for cyprus!

Anything under approx 14,000usd stays, and anything over that is converted into shares in the central bank.

Putin remains a master strategist.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Dmitry Medvedev, Deputy Chairman of Russia’s Security Council, became the first Russian politician to disclose arms production figures since the beginning of the war in Ukraine.

Speaking in an interview in 2023, Medvedev stated, “This year alone, we will produce 1,500 tanks.” However, the number he cited includes upgraded and reactivated vehicles removed from storage.

While Medvedev painted an optimistic picture of Russia’s defense industry, reports from the frontlines tell a different story. A visible shortage of operational armored vehicles has forced Russian forces to improvise. Soldiers have resorted to repurposing motorcycles, modifying civilian trucks, and even using standard civilian cars in assault operations.

One widely circulated video shows four Russian soldiers attempting to storm Ukrainian positions near Pokrovsk in a civilian VAZ-2106 sedan. The attack ended in failure, with the occupants killed. Another video documents Russian troops using three modified Niva vehicles turned into makeshift military pickups. These improvised tactics have become easy targets for Ukrainian drones.

Russian media have also shared footage of troops converting civilian vehicles into “tactical assault cars” for frontline use, underscoring the severe equipment shortages caused by sustained losses.

According to Oryx, a monitoring group that tracks equipment losses using open-source intelligence, Russia has lost 3,677 tanks, 5,293 fighting vehicles, and 2,436 other armored vehicles since the invasion of Ukraine began. These staggering figures explain why Moscow has turned to outdated equipment and unorthodox solutions to fill the gaps.

The use of civilian vehicles on the battlefield highlights the growing challenges faced by Russian forces as their armored vehicle losses continue to mount. Despite Medvedev’s claim of ramped-up tank production, the reliance on improvised solutions reveals the strain on Russia’s military-industrial complex.

https://defence-blog.com/russia-faces-ar...ion-boost/

[The Grand Nudger]

1500 tanks a month produced in the 1950s finally reaching the ukranian battlefield. Russian production stronk, russian logistics slow.