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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 22, 2025 at 10:29 pm
(February 22, 2025 at 10:18 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (February 22, 2025 at 7:34 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Well, if Boris Johnson says so...it must be fact.
Good job convincing the forum.
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I think this sums it up better
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 22, 2025 at 11:10 pm
If I'm interpreting the conflicting reports I've been reading correctly, Musk and Trump are threatening to cut off Ukraine's access to StarLink if they don't agree to their "peace" plan and agree to giving the US their rare earth elements.
Which, of course, Ukraine depends on to defend itself from Russia.
So, Poland has taken over paying for Ukraine's access to the system.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 22, 2025 at 11:24 pm
That was already the status quo. Poland has been contributing the lions share of the thing that elon charged the us government for...and then actively failed to provide.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 23, 2025 at 12:06 am
(February 22, 2025 at 10:18 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: (February 22, 2025 at 7:34 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Well, if Boris Johnson says so...it must be fact.
Good job convincing the forum.
This photo sums up anything I have to say about BoJo's intelligence:
Playing behind the capo, that's a poser.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 23, 2025 at 11:51 am
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2025 at 11:52 am by Thumpalumpacus.)
Quote:Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.) said on Sunday that forcing Ukraine to agree to a resource deal with the U.S., in exchange for the possibility of support against Russia, is akin to “victim extortion.”
The moderate Republican said Russian President Vladimir Putin, who launched the invasion of Ukraine three years ago, should be the one forced to pay.
“Putin, and Putin alone, should bear the economic costs of Putin’s illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine,” Fitzpatrick said in a post on X.
“To force Ukraine to pay these costs is the epitome of victim-blaming and victim extortion.”
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Fitzpatrick — one of three House Republicans elected in districts that Vice President Harris won in the 2024 election — said earlier this week that Zelensky must not be forced to accept a deal that is struck by another country and that falls short of his demands.
“President Volodymyr Zelenskyy need not, and must not, have any deal forced upon him by any outside nation that does not guarantee the security and the sovereignty of the Ukrainian people,” Fitzpatrick wrote in a statement on social platform X.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/51598...extortion/
Some of them get it.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 25, 2025 at 4:12 am
Good well-documented summary here of why the US wanted this proxy war.
https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1894295533520355597
Quote:To exhaust Russia in a long war, the goal was to ensure that the Russians and Ukrainians kill each other for as long as possible.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 25, 2025 at 5:38 am
(February 25, 2025 at 4:12 am)Belacqua Wrote: Good well-documented summary here of why the US wanted this proxy war.
https://x.com/Glenn_Diesen/status/1894295533520355597
Quote:To exhaust Russia in a long war, the goal was to ensure that the Russians and Ukrainians kill each other for as long as possible.
Quote:The Swedish journalist Patrik Oksanen considers Diesen to be "part of the Russian propaganda machinery."[7] Aage Borchgrevink of the said that Diesen has "an important role in RT as the Western expert, which gives legitimacy to what clearly appears to be the Kremlin's version [...] his writings are unreliable, the factual basis is doubtful, and characterized by the content and form of Russian propaganda, as expressed in RT and Sputnik."
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 25, 2025 at 10:55 am
Quote:At the United Nations General Assembly on Monday, the U.S. voted against condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The U.S. chargé d'affaires ad interim, Dorothy Shea, said the resolution only perpetuated "a war of words rather than an end to the war."
The vote places the U.S. in unusual company, as it sided with North Korea, Iran and 15 other countries against a Europe-backed Ukrainian resolution. China, along with 64 other countries, abstained.
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/25/nx-s1-530...-russia-eu
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 25, 2025 at 11:59 am
I hope you're not getting the bulk of your information from X. If so, you're a complete moron.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 25, 2025 at 12:00 pm
(February 25, 2025 at 10:55 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Quote:At the United Nations General Assembly on Monday, the U.S. voted against condemning Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The U.S. chargé d'affaires ad interim, Dorothy Shea, said the resolution only perpetuated "a war of words rather than an end to the war."
The vote places the U.S. in unusual company, as it sided with North Korea, Iran and 15 other countries against a Europe-backed Ukrainian resolution. China, along with 64 other countries, abstained.
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/25/nx-s1-530...-russia-eu
One can only hope these are mere bargaining tactics. Given Trump's history, I think that's a slim hope.
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