OP, could you clarify the question?
When you say God, are you referring to the musilm god, or perhaps the jewish god?
When you say God, are you referring to the musilm god, or perhaps the jewish god?
Is Satan better than God?
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OP, could you clarify the question?
When you say God, are you referring to the musilm god, or perhaps the jewish god? (January 30, 2022 at 12:01 pm)Plague Happy Wrote: OP, could you clarify the question? I think they are the same god. Judaism is the original religion, therefore, it would be called the jewish god. Islam just claims that Jesus is just a prophet and not a son of god or part of the god. They claims that Jesus was not crucified and instead, they picked on some other dude. That seems to be the essential difference between christianity and islam. There doesn't seem to be much of a reason for Jesus showing up. The reason why Mohamed showed up seems to be that the jewish god wanted to fine tune christianity a bit and for some reason, he chose an arab. (January 31, 2022 at 2:32 am)Ferrocyanide Wrote:Are you being serious?(January 30, 2022 at 12:01 pm)Plague Happy Wrote: OP, could you clarify the question? RE: Is Satan better than God?
January 31, 2022 at 8:47 am
(This post was last modified: January 31, 2022 at 8:49 am by The Grand Nudger.)
It's a murky one. One one hand, they're contended to be the same god, and there's a clear line of development through every abrahamic faith. On the other...the character of that god is as different between subsects as the groups that retrofit it for their purposes.
Personally, I see it as an accident of history. They needed the credibility of an established faith because the religious marketplace is super competitive - but they had no intention of holding to precepts of that faith - as evidenced by the simple fact of their engaging in a new faiths construction.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: Is Satan better than God?
January 31, 2022 at 2:34 pm
(This post was last modified: January 31, 2022 at 2:53 pm by Ferrocyanide.)
(January 31, 2022 at 6:31 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(January 31, 2022 at 2:32 am)Ferrocyanide Wrote: I think they are the same god. Judaism is the original religion, therefore, it would be called the jewish god.Are you being serious? What's the problem? (January 31, 2022 at 8:47 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's a murky one. One one hand, they're contended to be the same god, and there's a clear line of development through every abrahamic faith. On the other...the character of that god is as different between subsects as the groups that retrofit it for their purposes. It’s sort of like software. Example: A corporation such as Microsoft makes Win NT 4.0. They are not going to throw away the entire source code and start fresh when they start working on Win 2000. Portions of the code might be rewritten, new functionality would be added, bugs would be fixed, new libraries added. What ends up happening is that Win 2000 is actually Win NT 5.0. Win XP is Win NT 6.0 (or whatever number MS has chosen to assign it). Example: The same thing happens with hardware/circuit board design. For example, with the XBox 360 the first version. Eventually, they integrated a few of the chips into 1 in order to reduce cost. They don’t throw away all their knowledge and start from scratch. They make improvements and they print a new version number on the PCB. Example: It’s the same with university textbooks, except they call it 2 nd edition, 3 rd edition, and so on. Example: It’s the same with cultures. Today’s culture is just an updated version of last year’s (or X timeframe) culture. It’s just that it is hard to demarcate. Are the jewish god and christian and muslim and mormon the same gods? Not exactly. But if you ask the followers of these religion, it looks like each of them says that they are worshiping the same god. Once in a while, I encounter a christian that say muslims and mormons worship another god. Once in a while, I encounter a muslim that says that christianity is polytheistic (they worship 3 gods). RE: Is Satan better than God?
January 31, 2022 at 3:37 pm
(This post was last modified: January 31, 2022 at 3:38 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It has to be mentioned that their own ideas of whether or not it's the same god have been known to shift in response to real and perceived advantages. They might be pretty busy executing each other at one moment, loudly decrying any supposed connection between their subcult and the others...or timidly asking that we respect them all on the basis of their shared faith and our shared humanities.
Even just the christian subcult, here......in living memory......didn't think of themselves as one thing, and a good many would tell you that they and only they were the true christians. That changed when they feared that they were losing their grip on the levers of power.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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