RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 9, 2022 at 10:52 am
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2022 at 10:53 am by onlinebiker.)
I have a freezer full of venison that shows an AR15 is a handy thing to have.
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What do you think about gun control?
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The deer might beg to differ.
![[Image: extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg]](https://i.postimg.cc/zf86M5L7/extraordinarywoo-sig.jpg)  (February 9, 2022 at 10:52 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I have a freezer full of venison that shows an AR15 is a handy thing to have. Not a lot of deer around where I live, a few squirrels though... yummy!
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February 9, 2022 at 12:48 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2022 at 12:52 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 9, 2022 at 10:23 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: Well, it goes without saying the vast majority of people would never find themselves in a situation where a gun helps. But around 1% of Americans (around 3 million) claim to have found themselves in such a situation. -and yet, despite their claims, the most likely gun for any american to be shot with is already in their own house. I think you probably know better than to trust the things some americans might claim about guns, right? So, let's make sure we're having a reality based discussion. The us is not the wild west. Americans don't wander a hellscape where even 1% of us would need or be better of with a gun. We do not possess the guns we do, or the amount of guns our superusers who drive those stats possess, for any reason related to violence or crime whatsoever. We're collectors and we're sport shooters. Unlike much of the rest of the developed world - huge swathes of our country host nothing but game. Additionally, range competitions are a much larger market here than anywhere else, and not by a little. Gun control as you understand it is a cynical ploy to rile up a base of voters through the victimization narrative of rights abrogation. It's dangerous here - but pathetic when someone from notheristan breathlessly repeats that nonsense. Even in country, it's not as if the case for rights abrogation is best made by current or proposed gun laws - nor is there any shortage of actual issues to contextualize and demonstrate that concern.
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 (February 9, 2022 at 12:11 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote:(February 9, 2022 at 10:52 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I have a freezer full of venison that shows an AR15 is a handy thing to have. I’ve never understood why people who will eat squirrel will balk at eating rat. Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
 RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 9, 2022 at 1:10 pm
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(February 9, 2022 at 1:09 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(February 9, 2022 at 11:38 am)Angrboda Wrote: The deer might beg to differ. Only if it wears a jaunty hat. But, if people insist on hunting, I’d like to see them honour our human evolution and run game down on foot. Boru
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 RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 9, 2022 at 1:19 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2022 at 1:31 pm by onlinebiker.)
(February 9, 2022 at 1:08 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:It' s the luxury of being well fed.(February 9, 2022 at 12:11 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Not a lot of deer around where I live, a few squirrels though... yummy! Get hungry enough - and rat might become your favorite meal.... (February 9, 2022 at 1:10 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(February 9, 2022 at 1:09 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I think that a bow is more sporty. You' ve got that bass ackwards.... You want Luddism. Human evolution is all about improving and refining - developing new and better ways...... It is not stasis - doing it like we have always done it..... . RE: What do you think about gun control?
February 9, 2022 at 1:27 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2022 at 1:31 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
A contemporary hunter and a paleolithic hunter would probably pick similar hides if they could. A place you can run down game is going to be a pretty damned good place to shoot them from too. Ironically, you'll find that there's alot more control over those old methods of hunting, in the us, than of our new method.
If I had to toss a guess out there - I'd say bowhunting goes away before rifles do. Not just because of that historic trend - but because well intentioned (I think..misguided) people can easily apply the justifications for prohibitions on pit traps and spears and any number of projectiles to bows. Rifles, otoh, cannot be maintained to be both lethal and dangerous in the case of humans, but not sufficiently lethal or dangerous in the case of wild animals - such that it becomes a welfare issue. As just one very prevalent example.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(February 9, 2022 at 1:19 pm)onlinebiker Wrote:(February 9, 2022 at 1:08 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I’ve never understood why people who will eat squirrel will balk at eating rat.It' s the luxury of being well fed. Granted that it’s not a static process. Nevertheless, humans evolved to be persistence hunters. No worries - it was meant as a joke. As I’ve said multiple times on these fora, I don’t have any real issues with hunting. Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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