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Hello, I just wante to know what you guys think of this analogy. We make children and they get our flesh and blood but where do they get their mind or conciousness ?
"No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path" - Gautama Buddha
RE: Question on mind
March 2, 2022 at 3:43 am
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2022 at 3:44 am by The Grand Nudger.)
They get some of it from their parents. There are hereditary traits, and, broadly human traits - even in behavior. The rest, they get from the same place their parents did. The world around them.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (March 2, 2022 at 3:33 am)miaharun Wrote: Hello, I just wante to know what you guys think of this analogy. We make children and they get our flesh and blood but where do they get their mind or conciousness ? Your bio says you're a Buddhist, so I'm curious about your take on this. Are there Buddhist teachings on mind that you're aware of? Would there be an orthodox Buddhist answer to the question you pose in the OP?  (March 2, 2022 at 3:33 am)miaharun Wrote: Hello, I just wante to know what you guys think of this analogy. We make children and they get our flesh and blood but where do they get their mind or conciousness ? They get their mind or consciousness from whoever has been banging the mom. BTW, I don't see you mentioning any analogy.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
 
Welcome back, miaharun. An zygote doesn't have fingers or toes, but it inherits the plans for them from its parents. It also inherits a plan for brain development from them. Combined with experience and teaching, a human baby with a brain without serious defects will grow a mind and consciousness.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
 (March 2, 2022 at 3:33 am)miaharun Wrote: Hello, I just wante to know what you guys think of this analogy. We make children and they get our flesh and blood but where do they get their mind or conciousness ? I think you answered your own question. Consciousness comes from within the brain according to the consensus. The brain is the flesh and blood from the parents. simples. As we have evolved brains, it is only natural that the potential for all healthy human babies to naturally spark consciousness from the get go. 
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear. RE: Question on mind
March 2, 2022 at 11:11 am
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2022 at 11:15 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 2, 2022 at 4:17 am)Belacqua Wrote:(March 2, 2022 at 3:33 am)miaharun Wrote: Hello, I just wante to know what you guys think of this analogy. We make children and they get our flesh and blood but where do they get their mind or conciousness ? No mind. No self. What we think of as our mind and our self is actually a collection of transient events. Radical material reductionism, in todays terminology. What's interesting is that's how it started. That was the buddhas take (allegedly) - and buddhists have spent all the time since trying to find a way to disagree with that notion and reassert some sort of fundamental or metaphysical consciousness as a permanent agent that conforms to our intuitions about ourselves without directly contradicting the doctrine of no self no mind. Which is to say that they explored compatibilism.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (March 2, 2022 at 4:17 am)Belacqua Wrote:(March 2, 2022 at 3:33 am)miaharun Wrote: Hello, I just wante to know what you guys think of this analogy. We make children and they get our flesh and blood but where do they get their mind or conciousness ? I was a Buddhist. Now I’m an Athiest. We were said to believe that the mind is something like a soul which finds a human when they are born. And it goes to someone else when we die. Most of the humans personally, traits come from the soul or whatever energy that is. Maybe Because consciousness cannot be explained. I don’t believe in rebirth or souls since you asked Buddhist view. I was just asking this because if someone asks flesh and blood come from parents and mind comes from somewhere else , how to answer that question
"No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path" - Gautama Buddha
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