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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 24, 2022 at 7:58 pm
(October 23, 2022 at 11:16 am)FlatAssembler Wrote: Paleophyte Wrote:Too much easily available glucose triggers an insulin spike. That makes you hungry, so you eat more carbs, which releases more insulin, which... You see where this is going, yes? Well, hunger is, as far as I know, caused by a lack of leptin, rather than by too much insulin.
Neither your simplistic view that anything as complex as hunger would be caused by any single factor nor your inability to do the most basic research is anybody's fault but your own. Take the 10 seconds that are needed to type "insulin hunger" into Google and educate yourself.
Quote:If that were true, how it is that vegetarians, who eat a diet that is even higher in carbohydrates than standard American diet is
They don't. There is no single vegetarian diet and most are significantly lower in carbs than average, especially simple sugars.
Quote:And even if that were true, what is the alternative? A low-carbohydrate diet is linked to kidney problems in humans, so it is not really an option.
No, exceptionally high protein diets are linked to kidney problems. High protein is not the same as low carb. Stop conflating them.
Quote:Paleophyte Wrote:You understand that your argument is essentially "I don't understand the expert, so the expert must be wrong"?
Oh, come on now! She is not a nutritional scientist, and she is going against the overwhelming consensus in nutritional science.
Research MD in obesity = expert and she didn't say much that hadn't been known for decades. That diets high in carbohydrates, especially simple sugars, are a great way to put on weight and develop Type II diabetes was well documented back when the year started with a 19.
Quote:Gluconeogenesis is not happening all the time.
No? Whatever does your body do with all that protein that you just stuffed your face with?
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 24, 2022 at 9:54 pm
I wonder what other sites this dodo posts at, where the members actually suck this shit up. Maybe those Faux News wannabees?
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 24, 2022 at 10:42 pm
Paleophyte Wrote:Take the 10 seconds that are needed to type "insulin hunger" into Google and educate yourself. I have done that and found nothing relevant.
Paleophyte Wrote:most are significantly lower in carbs than average I am quite sure that's not the case. Vegetarian diets are lower in fat and protein, but are higher in carbohydrates. Paleophyte Wrote:exceptionally high protein diets are linked to kidney problems I have said this in the video, I have said this on this forum, and I will say this again: " If that were true, how it is that around 5% of children put on a ketogenic diet (a low-carbohydrate low-protein diet that is supposedly beneficial to epilepsy) develop kidney stones, compared to virtually none of the children who are not following a ketogenic diet? Are you suggesting those 5% of children were not following the ketogenic diet properly, but were eating some crazy-high-protein diet? Do you have any evidence of that?". Paleophyte Wrote:That diets high in carbohydrates, especially simple sugars, are a great way to put on weight and develop Type II diabetes was well documented back when the year started with a 19. The link between sugar and type-2-diabetes is complicated. Fructose does cause temporary insulin resistance, but there is little evidence that fructose in the amounts it is usually eaten today can cause type-2-diabetes (permanent insulin resistance). Sugar consumption in the US reached its peak somewhere in the 1990s and has been falling ever since, yet the type-2-diabetes rates continued to grow. Paleophyte Wrote:Whatever does your body do with all that protein that you just stuffed your face with? Are you kidding me? Your body needs protein for just about everything, not just for gluconeogenesis.
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 24, 2022 at 10:43 pm
(October 24, 2022 at 10:42 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: Paleophyte Wrote:Take the 10 seconds that are needed to type "insulin hunger" into Google and educate yourself. I have done that and found nothing relevant.
Paleophyte Wrote:most are significantly lower in carbs than average I am quite sure that's not the case. Vegetarian diets are lower in fat and protein, but are higher in carbohydrates.
Paleophyte Wrote:exceptionally high protein diets are linked to kidney problems I have said this in the video, I have said this on this forum, and I will say this again: "If that were true, how it is that around 5% of children put on a ketogenic diet (a low-carbohydrate low-protein diet that is supposedly beneficial to epilepsy) develop kidney stones, compared to virtually none of the children who are not following a ketogenic diet? Are you suggesting those 5% of children were not following the ketogenic diet properly, but were eating some crazy-high-protein diet? Do you have any evidence of that?".
Paleophyte Wrote:That diets high in carbohydrates, especially simple sugars, are a great way to put on weight and develop Type II diabetes was well documented back when the year started with a 19. The link between sugar and type-2-diabetes is complicated. Fructose does cause temporary insulin resistance, but there is little evidence that fructose in the amounts it is usually eaten today can cause type-2-diabetes (permanent insulin resistance). Sugar consumption in the US reached its peak somewhere in the 1990s and has been falling ever since, yet the type-2-diabetes rates continued to grow.
Paleophyte Wrote:Whatever does your body do with all that protein that you just stuffed your face with? Are you kidding me? Your body needs protein for just about everything, not just for gluconeogenesis.
Come back when you have your medical degree.
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 24, 2022 at 10:44 pm
(October 24, 2022 at 9:54 pm)Fireball Wrote: I wonder what other sites this dodo posts at, where the members actually suck this shit up. Maybe those Faux News wannabees?
I am also active on Philosophical Vegan forum, on LinguistForum and on forum.hr.
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 24, 2022 at 10:50 pm
I'm uncertain how being versed in linguistics makes one a medical expert.
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 24, 2022 at 10:50 pm
(October 24, 2022 at 10:50 pm)Tomato Wrote: I'm uncertain how being versed in linguistics makes one a medical expert.
Delusion.
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 25, 2022 at 11:07 am
(October 24, 2022 at 10:43 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (October 24, 2022 at 10:42 pm)FlatAssembler Wrote: I have done that and found nothing relevant.
I am quite sure that's not the case. Vegetarian diets are lower in fat and protein, but are higher in carbohydrates.
I have said this in the video, I have said this on this forum, and I will say this again: "If that were true, how it is that around 5% of children put on a ketogenic diet (a low-carbohydrate low-protein diet that is supposedly beneficial to epilepsy) develop kidney stones, compared to virtually none of the children who are not following a ketogenic diet? Are you suggesting those 5% of children were not following the ketogenic diet properly, but were eating some crazy-high-protein diet? Do you have any evidence of that?".
The link between sugar and type-2-diabetes is complicated. Fructose does cause temporary insulin resistance, but there is little evidence that fructose in the amounts it is usually eaten today can cause type-2-diabetes (permanent insulin resistance). Sugar consumption in the US reached its peak somewhere in the 1990s and has been falling ever since, yet the type-2-diabetes rates continued to grow.
Are you kidding me? Your body needs protein for just about everything, not just for gluconeogenesis.
Come back when you have your medical degree.
Well, I will never have a medical degree, as I am a computer science student, not a medicine student. Also, people with a medical degree know about nutritional science only slightly more than an average person, so it would not be relevant here. Besides, even though I am a computer science student, people on this forum do not trust me what I say about computers, so why would they trust me about nutritional science if only I had a medical degree?
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 25, 2022 at 11:08 am
(October 24, 2022 at 10:50 pm)Tomato Wrote: I'm uncertain how being versed in linguistics makes one a medical expert.
It does not. But it gives me some insight into how science works. That is also why doctors are trusted about nutrition: not because they have learned a lot about nutritional science at the university, but because they have some insight into how science works.
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RE: I've made a new video against low-carb diets
October 25, 2022 at 11:26 am
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@ FlatAssembler
The body absolutely can and does convert protein into glucose in the absence of carbohydrates. Protein needs can be estimated at approximately.8g/kg body weight. Intakes in excess of that will lead to conversion of the extra amino acids into glucose for energy in the absence of adequate carbohydrate intake, or stored as fat in conditions of caloric intake beyond physiological needs.
Also, you don’t seem to understand how hormones work.
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