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RE: That pro white thread.
April 30, 2022 at 4:26 pm
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(April 30, 2022 at 4:16 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We've had this discussion before. The US also has hate speech laws, which in no way run afoul of our 1st amendment rights (which are not equivalent to your first amendment rights..you filthy canadian), a question that has been repeatedly asked and answer in our courts throughout history. The right of americans to say horrible shit is in no way being infringed..even as the protected speech which is threatened in the us is being threatened by the people who insist their right to say horrible shit is being abrogated.
Nothing has changed about this since the last time we discussed it. Nothing has changed about my position on protected speech since we last discussed it. Nothing has changed..about your need to validate white supremacist propaganda...since we last discussed it.
It doesn't even rise to the level of a mistake, but I think you know that. Yup Canada has no first amendment and thank goodness for that. I like living where were allowed to tell bigots to STFU.
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RE: That pro white thread.
April 30, 2022 at 5:33 pm
(April 30, 2022 at 4:16 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We've had this discussion before. The US also has hate speech laws, which in no way run afoul of our 1st amendment rights (which are not equivalent to your first amendment rights..you filthy canadian), a question that has been repeatedly asked and answer in our courts throughout history. The right of americans to say horrible shit is in no way being infringed..even as the protected speech which is threatened in the us is being threatened by the people who insist their right to say horrible shit is being abrogated.
Nothing has changed about this since the last time we discussed it. Nothing has changed about my position on protected speech since we last discussed it. Nothing has changed..about your need to validate white supremacist propaganda...since we last discussed it.
It doesn't even rise to the level of a mistake, but I think you know that.
https://atheistforums.org/thread-62306-p...Proud+Boys
You posted Quote:Yeah, because, clearly...... a whole country will die..... rip, if they fail to endorse racist merch. Go fuck yourself. When you're done fucking yourself, fuck yourself some more.
To you, allowing citizens the freedom to purchase gear from the Proud Boys is endorsing racism. In that post, you certainly don't sound like someone who supports the idea of the American 1st Amendment, but if you say your views have changed since then and you support free speech now, I'm glad to find out that you've seen the error in your ways.
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RE: That pro white thread.
April 30, 2022 at 5:36 pm
Since when is shopping covered in the US Constitutional Amendments?
You are reaching. Ima sit here to watch you fall on your face again.
Maybe you should read Nudger's signature. Then read it the fuck again.
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RE: That pro white thread.
April 30, 2022 at 6:10 pm
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Quote:To you, allowing citizens the freedom to purchase gear from the Proud Boys is endorsing racism. In that post, you certainly don't sound like someone who supports the idea of the American 1st Amendment, but if you say your views have changed since then and you support free speech now, I'm glad to find out that you've seen the error in your ways.
Buying stuff from a hate group isn't covered by any amendment 
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RE: That pro white thread.
April 30, 2022 at 7:10 pm
(April 30, 2022 at 6:10 pm)Helios Wrote: Quote:To you, allowing citizens the freedom to purchase gear from the Proud Boys is endorsing racism. In that post, you certainly don't sound like someone who supports the idea of the American 1st Amendment, but if you say your views have changed since then and you support free speech now, I'm glad to find out that you've seen the error in your ways.
Buying stuff from a hate group isn't covered by any amendment
Hate is covered under free speech, and is it legal to buy that kind of gear in the US? Pretty sure it is. Why is that?
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April 30, 2022 at 7:24 pm
Quote:Hate is covered under free speech, and is it legal to buy that kind of gear in the US? Pretty sure it is. Why is that?
Nice job missing the point ...... 
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RE: That pro white thread.
May 1, 2022 at 6:07 am
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(April 30, 2022 at 7:10 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: (April 30, 2022 at 6:10 pm)Helios Wrote: Buying stuff from a hate group isn't covered by any amendment
Hate is covered under free speech, and is it legal to buy that kind of gear in the US? Pretty sure it is. Why is that?
Hate speech isn't protected speech in either of our countries - which has been pointed out to you many times, most recently in my last post. Profiting from hate speech, or fundraising for terrorism....for that matter, isn't covered by any right. If you want to know why the proud boys can sell merch in the us but not...say..al qaeda, that has to do with a novelty in how the us designates (or, rather..fails to designate) terror organizations. In particular, we don't do it to domestics...because then we couldn't call all these white supremacist kooks lone wolves. We have a vested interest in this, historically. Canada also gets funny about their own laws sometimes. They fail to designate the us a state sponsor of terror, for example.
But let's cut to the chase, shall we? Let's just imagine, for shits and giggles, that what you've come to genuinely believe is true. No need to label it. The government is abrogating the rights of it's people. What are you going to do about it?
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RE: That pro white thread.
May 1, 2022 at 7:01 pm
OMG, I knew a troll had to keep this thread going.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
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RE: That pro white thread.
May 2, 2022 at 2:00 pm
(May 1, 2022 at 6:07 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (April 30, 2022 at 7:10 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Hate is covered under free speech, and is it legal to buy that kind of gear in the US? Pretty sure it is. Why is that?
Hate speech isn't protected speech in either of our countries - which has been pointed out to you many times, most recently in my last post. Profiting from hate speech, or fundraising for terrorism....for that matter, isn't covered by any right. If you want to know why the proud boys can sell merch in the us but not...say..al qaeda, that has to do with a novelty in how the us designates (or, rather..fails to designate) terror organizations. In particular, we don't do it to domestics...because then we couldn't call all these white supremacist kooks lone wolves. We have a vested interest in this, historically. Canada also gets funny about their own laws sometimes. They fail to designate the us a state sponsor of terror, for example.
But let's cut to the chase, shall we? Let's just imagine, for shits and giggles, that what you've come to genuinely believe is true. No need to label it. The government is abrogating the rights of it's people. What are you going to do about it?
Here's just one example of the government of Canada, as you put it, not abrogating the rights of its' people.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/tr...permanent/
Now, you probably agree that Canadians should lose those rights because of course you would, but you are living in a fantasy world by pretending that rights are not disappearing.
What am I going to do about it? Do you work for the FBI or something? What are you going to do about cops looking for people with the wrong plate so they can kill them over that plate? What is Boru going to do about someone supposedly getting killed over Pokemon cards? You have a holocaust of Pokemon fans with Pokemon cards in their hands getting killed for Pokemon by the police. You're just going to stand by and let this happen?
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