THE Gun Thread

[onlinebiker]

The lesson being, let’s throw people into icy water and tell them to swim.  Because Biker is a sane and serious person and absolutely no one should have any reservations about a person like the one he insists he is wandering around town with a pistol shoved in his titey whiteys.

Nuts are, themselves, the single best argument for gun control.  Every time they open their mouths they manage to give people the rough draft of legislation that would address them.

Such as the -no throwing teachers into frozen water with guns then telling them to swim and/or shoot act of 2022.

Puppy - you shoulda quit smoking that shit a while back. 

Too late now...

[Neo-Scholastic]

I agree with a fair bit - but psych evals for ownership are crap. It is far more likely that someone who is legial for gun ownership would be denied than a whackadoodle sneaking through. Doctors with an axe to grind - ex spouses looking for revenge - ect...

Your objections to it notwithstanding, I still think psych evaluations would help (not solve the problem, but help). But I'm willing to forego that if gun owners would agree to make owning a firearm no more difficult than owning and operating a car.

-Title and tag at each point of sale.

-Required training.

-Written/practical tests.

-Minimum health requirements (vision, hearing, etc).

-Liability insurance (people who own more than one firearm would be eligible for a multi-gun discount).

-Renewals and inspections at regular intervals.

Boru

Addendum: A point system for violations, leading to suspension or revocation of gun ownership.

Guess the whole "shall not be infringed" means nothing to you.

[Rev. Rye]

Guess the whole idea of people who aren't responsible with their guns and using them means nothing to you.

Frankly, the Second Amendment was probably the biggest mistake the framers of the Constitution made that didn't involve perpetuating slavery. But given that, at the time, there was a huge opposition to a standing army and states relied on semi-organised militias, it at least makes sense.

[The Architect Of Fate]

Your objections to it notwithstanding, I still think psych evaluations would help (not solve the problem, but help). But I'm willing to forego that if gun owners would agree to make owning a firearm no more difficult than owning and operating a car.

-Title and tag at each point of sale.

-Required training.

-Written/practical tests.

-Minimum health requirements (vision, hearing, etc).

-Liability insurance (people who own more than one firearm would be eligible for a multi-gun discount).

-Renewals and inspections at regular intervals.

Boru

Addendum: A point system for violations, leading to suspension or revocation of gun ownership.

Guess the whole "shall not be infringed" means nothing to you.

Freedom comes with responsibility and those who choose to flaunt that responsibility don't deserve that freedom

[The Valkyrie]

Your objections to it notwithstanding, I still think psych evaluations would help (not solve the problem, but help). But I'm willing to forego that if gun owners would agree to make owning a firearm no more difficult than owning and operating a car.

-Title and tag at each point of sale.

-Required training.

-Written/practical tests.

-Minimum health requirements (vision, hearing, etc).

-Liability insurance (people who own more than one firearm would be eligible for a multi-gun discount).

-Renewals and inspections at regular intervals.

Boru

Addendum: A point system for violations, leading to suspension or revocation of gun ownership.

Guess the whole "shall not be infringed" means nothing to you.

Like the "well regulated militia" part?

[Thumpalumpacus]

You would think protecting a building full of children would be enough of a motivation

You'd think, but even with the on-scene commander having a clearly (in hindsight) -erroneous picture of events. those officers have to follow orders. That the orders were flawed is not a reflection on the individual cop there, nor his or her motivation.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Also, all rights have limits. Can't make threats, can't defend libel with "freedom of the press", that sort of thing.

The right to bear a firearm should of course be accompanied by restrictions.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Your objections to it notwithstanding, I still think psych evaluations would help (not solve the problem, but help). But I'm willing to forego that if gun owners would agree to make owning a firearm no more difficult than owning and operating a car.

-Title and tag at each point of sale.

-Required training.

-Written/practical tests.

-Minimum health requirements (vision, hearing, etc).

-Liability insurance (people who own more than one firearm would be eligible for a multi-gun discount).

-Renewals and inspections at regular intervals.

Boru

Addendum: A point system for violations, leading to suspension or revocation of gun ownership.

Guess the whole "shall not be infringed" means nothing to you.

It means as much to me as the 'well regulated militia' clause means to you - fuck all. The whole point of that Amendment was to obviate the need for a central standing army - Federalists worried that would give the government too much power and thought a better safeguard would be state militias.

Pro tip: A teenager with a grudge is not a 'well-regulated militia'.

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Boru

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Gun. Debate. Over.









Boru