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The shape of Earth
RE: The shape of Earth
(August 18, 2022 at 5:42 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Most of the questions have been elementary to middle school level.  My boys are doing units on this stuff right now.  Now, trolls trolling - and ofc troll knows most of this at least vaguely, but the thrust of the trolls questioning implies that they probably didn't actually -do- these science experiments when they were at that grade level...which is why they were unaware of how trivially easy demonstrations of this stuff was...and that's not uncommon in the us at all.

okay so 2 + 2 = 4? Would you agree with me on that? Okay then you must understand that Pi * Diameter = Circumference right?

Are you guys genuinely convinced that these simple observations prove that Earth must be an oblate spheroid? 
Like that's a foregone conclusion because you understand how to measure density?

There seems to be a few bricks missing in your bridge.

2 + 2 = 4, therefore God is real.
The tide goes in, the tied goes out, can't explain that.
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RE: The shape of Earth
(August 18, 2022 at 8:31 pm)h311inac311 Wrote:
(August 18, 2022 at 5:42 pm)TAre you guys genuinely convinced that these simple observations prove that Earth must be an oblate spheroid? Wrote: Like that's a foregone conclusion because you understand how to measure density?

There seems to be a few bricks missing in your bridge.

2 + 2 = 4, therefore God is real.
The tide goes in, the tied goes out, can't explain that.he Grand NudgerMost of the questions have been elementary to middle school level.  My boys are doing units on this stuff right now.  Now, trolls trolling - and ofc troll knows most of this at least vaguely, but the thrust of the trolls questioning implies that they probably didn't actually -do- these science experiments when they were at that grade level...which is why they were unaware of how trivially easy demonstrations of this stuff was...and that's not uncommon in the us at all.

okay so 2 + 2 = 4? Would you agree with me on that? Okay then you must understand that Pi * Diameter = Circumference right?

Are you genuinely convinced that your observations prove that Earth must be a flat pancake atop a turtle? 
Like that's a foregone conclusion because you understand how to measure density?

There seems to be a few bricks missing in your bridge.

2 + 2 = 4, therefore FSM is real.
The tide goes in, the tied goes out, can't explain that.

Thoughts and prayers RAmen
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming"  -The Prophet Boiardi-

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RE: The shape of Earth
(August 18, 2022 at 8:31 pm)h311inac311 Wrote: Are you guys genuinely convinced that these simple observations prove that Earth must be an oblate spheroid? 
Like that's a foregone conclusion because you understand how to measure density?
You amusingly asked why stones sank and why balloons defied gravity.  It was explained to you.  You then asked to see simple experiments that could demonstrate how displacement works.  They were provided.  Is there anything else you'd like to tell us that you don't understand, which could be cleared up by a third grade science project?
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RE: The shape of Earth
(August 18, 2022 at 8:21 pm)h311inac311 Wrote:
(August 18, 2022 at 2:42 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Ah, what a big fat nonanswer. He is actually comparing the biggest thing in the world, Mount Everest, to a cockroach.
If the world was flat you could see mountains like Mount Everest up in the sky from anywhere in the world, if not by the naked eye, then with a telescope, but you can't. If you are on flat land, all you see is flatness all the way to the horizon.

Is air a thing that can block light? 
Is air a thing that can redirect light? 
If not then you'll have to explain to me again why I can see a city skyline from across more than 60 miles of curved water. And, who knows, maybe you could see Mt. Everest from extreme distances, assuming there are no obstructions. Why not try pointing a high-powered laser at it?

'Curved water'? Why is the water curved? If the Earth wasn't more or less ball-shaped, there should be no curve on the surface of a body of water. 

As for Mount Everest, you couldn't see it from New York or Tokyo even with the most powerful telescope ever devised (there's a planet in the way).

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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RE: The shape of Earth
(August 19, 2022 at 4:05 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: 'Curved water'? Why is the water curved? If the Earth wasn't more or less ball-shaped, there should be no curve on the surface of a body of water. 

As for Mount Everest, you couldn't see it from New York or Tokyo even with the most powerful telescope ever devised (there's a planet in the way).

Boru

Not only that, but, the gravitational field of the Earth is not completely uniform, resulting in a spot in the Pacific Ocean where the water level is actually below sea level!
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RE: The shape of Earth
(July 19, 2022 at 10:59 am)h311inac311 Wrote: Premis: We don't know what shape Earth actually is.

Persuade me, do you know the shape of this realm? 

Can you stretch the line across it an measure it for me?

Regardless of your position, any non-God fearing person should embrace the challenge of proving their knowledge of something as foundational as the ground we stand upon.

Dude you need to get off the internet for like 6 months minimum. If you've reached the point where flat Earth theory seems plausible, you need to go touch grass.
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RE: The shape of Earth
(August 19, 2022 at 4:13 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(July 19, 2022 at 10:59 am)h311inac311 Wrote: Premis: We don't know what shape Earth actually is.

Persuade me, do you know the shape of this realm? 

Can you stretch the line across it an measure it for me?

Regardless of your position, any non-God fearing person should embrace the challenge of proving their knowledge of something as foundational as the ground we stand upon.

Dude you need to get off the internet for like 6 months minimum. If you've reached the point where flat Earth theory seems plausible, you need to go touch grass.

Touch it, not smoke it!
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

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RE: The shape of Earth
(August 19, 2022 at 4:13 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(July 19, 2022 at 10:59 am)h311inac311 Wrote: Premis: We don't know what shape Earth actually is.

Persuade me, do you know the shape of this realm? 

Can you stretch the line across it an measure it for me?

Regardless of your position, any non-God fearing person should embrace the challenge of proving their knowledge of something as foundational as the ground we stand upon.

Dude you need to get off the internet for like 6 months minimum. If you've reached the point where flat Earth theory seems plausible, you need to go touch grass.
Can't.  Grass is part of the conspiracy.  How the hell does it know which way is up?!!!?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The shape of Earth
(August 19, 2022 at 4:44 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(August 19, 2022 at 4:13 pm)Aegon Wrote: Dude you need to get off the internet for like 6 months minimum. If you've reached the point where flat Earth theory seems plausible, you need to go touch grass.
Can't.  Grass is part of the conspiracy.  How the hell does it know which way is up?!!!?

Geotropism!
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!

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RE: The shape of Earth
Geo-whata?  Silence you perverted witch, your curses and cantrips wont work in the presence of our lord.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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