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**Silver** · (This post was last modified: September 18, 2022 at 7:51 pm by Silver.)

Man has such a vivid imagination, he created a god to keep him company during his loneliest moments.

Ranjr · September 19, 2022 at 8:59 am

I like how Jesus has allowed me to voice more expressive swearing.

Gwaithmir · September 19, 2022 at 9:05 am

(September 18, 2022 at 7:43 pm)Tomato Wrote: Man has such a vivid imagination, he created a god to keep him company during his loneliest moments.

"Man cannot create a worm, yet he can create gods by the dozen." (Blaise Pascal) Read

Jehanne · September 19, 2022 at 10:09 am

(September 19, 2022 at 8:59 am)Ranjr Wrote: I like how Jesus has allowed me to voice more expressive swearing.

Where did the 'H' come from, as in "Jesus H. Christ", which is how I curse.

**arewethereyet** · September 19, 2022 at 10:14 am

(September 19, 2022 at 10:09 am)Jehanne Wrote:
(September 19, 2022 at 8:59 am)Ranjr Wrote: I like how Jesus has allowed me to voice more expressive swearing.

Where did the 'H' come from, as in "Jesus H. Christ", which is how I curse.

What's Jesus' middle name?

Howard

Howard be thy name.

Cool

Ranjr · September 19, 2022 at 10:19 am

(September 19, 2022 at 10:09 am)Jehanne Wrote:
(September 19, 2022 at 8:59 am)Ranjr Wrote: I like how Jesus has allowed me to voice more expressive swearing.

Where did the 'H' come from, as in "Jesus H. Christ", which is how I curse.

I used to think H was for Holy. But Howard makes more sense.

**Mister Agenda** · September 19, 2022 at 10:54 am

(September 18, 2022 at 11:13 am)JML Wrote: Any thoughts on this book?

Book Review
Creating Christ: How Roman Emperors Invented Christianity
by James S Valliant & Warren Fahy 2018
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Welcome, JML. Not sure of the scholarship on this. Has any empire created a new religion out of nearly whole cloth to insert into a population they want to pacify? The Romans were pretty advanced, but this seems unlikely on the face of it, and unlikely that there would be no record of it.

Jehanne · (This post was last modified: September 19, 2022 at 12:48 pm by Jehanne.)

(September 19, 2022 at 10:54 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(September 18, 2022 at 11:13 am)JML Wrote: Any thoughts on this book?

Book Review
Creating Christ: How Roman Emperors Invented Christianity
by James S Valliant & Warren Fahy 2018
full review of
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Link removed per 30/30 rule.

Welcome, JML. Not sure of the scholarship on this. Has any empire created a new religion out of nearly whole cloth to insert into a population they want to pacify? The Romans were pretty advanced, but this seems unlikely on the face of it, and unlikely that there would be no record of it.

The Romans were pagans, and they had no qualms about adding the Christian god(s) to their existing Pantheon of gods. It was the claim by some Christians that their religion was the "One True Faith" that started to rub the Romans in the wrong way.

Angrboda · September 19, 2022 at 12:55 pm

**BrianSoddingBoru4** · September 19, 2022 at 12:59 pm

(September 19, 2022 at 12:47 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(September 19, 2022 at 10:54 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Welcome, JML. Not sure of the scholarship on this. Has any empire created a new religion out of nearly whole cloth to insert into a population they want to pacify? The Romans were pretty advanced, but this seems unlikely on the face of it, and unlikely that there would be no record of it.

The Romans were pagans, and they had no qualms about adding the Christian god(s) to their existing Pantheon of gods. It was the claim by some Christians that their religion was the "One True Faith" that started to rub the Romans in the wrong way.

Yup, as ancient empires went, the Romans were reasonably tolerant of the faiths of their client states. As long as you paid your tributes and accepted the current Emperor as overlord, the Romans weren't terribly concerned with what rituals you got up to.

In fact, if the Jews hadn't been so stiff-necked about all of the above, Christianity might never have arisen at all.

Boru

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