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Sexual desire seems to be a curse for men
#71
RE: Sexual desire seems to be a curse for men
(December 23, 2022 at 4:22 pm)Angrboda Wrote: I hear that castration is very effective at diminishing troublesome sexual desires.  Coffee

yES, AND A FRONTAL LOBOTOMY is a cure for feistiness.
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#72
RE: Sexual desire seems to be a curse for men
(December 23, 2022 at 6:01 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: The problem with Elliot is that there were no doubt women that wanted to have sex with him but he didn't want to have sex with them because he thought he was too good for them, he didn't even notice them. And I have no doubts that the case is the same with Moleco. There are probably women that want to have sex with him but he thinks that they are not attractive enough, and yet he whines about how he is sexually frustrated.

Well, Moleco welcome to the world of grownups. You can either swallow your stupid pride and have sex with women that you deem are not worthy of you, or shut the fuck up and be sexually frustrated.

And even that was part of a bigger problem for Elliot: despite whining about how women rejected him, that wasn't even the case. You can't be rejected by women if you don't put yourself out there. If his entire 141-page manifesto/autobiography is any indication, he only passed that hurdle once in his life. Here's how it went:
Quote:One time, as I was walking across the huge bridge that connected the two campuses, I passed by a girl I thought was pretty and said “Hi” as we neared each other. She kept on walking and didn’t even have the grace to respond to me. How dare she! That foul bitch. I felt so humiliated that I went to one of the school bathrooms, locked myself in a toilet stall, and cried for an hour.
Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if the reason she didn't respond was because his "Hi" was so soft she didn't even notice it.

I've heard he's somewhere on the autism spectrum



and while this isn't necessarily a problem in and of itself, actually overcoming that sort of anxiety requires help. He had several mental health professionals on file, and he even had a family friend try to help his confidence specifically with women. He refused their help because he was stuck in a state of learned helplessness he couldn't get out of.
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#73
RE: Sexual desire seems to be a curse for men
(December 23, 2022 at 6:07 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:
(December 23, 2022 at 6:01 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: The problem with Elliot is that there were no doubt women that wanted to have sex with him but he didn't want to have sex with them because he thought he was too good for them, he didn't even notice them. And I have no doubts that the case is the same with Moleco. There are probably women that want to have sex with him but he thinks that they are not attractive enough, and yet he whines about how he is sexually frustrated.

Well, Moleco welcome to the world of grownups. You can either swallow your stupid pride and have sex with women that you deem are not worthy of you, or shut the fuck up and be sexually frustrated.

And even that was part of a bigger problem for Elliot: despite whining about how women rejected him, that wasn't even the case. You can't be rejected by women if you don't put yourself out there. If his entire 141-page manifesto/autobiography is any indication, he only passed that hurdle once in his life. Here's how it went:
Quote:One time, as I was walking across the huge bridge that connected the two campuses, I passed by a girl I thought was pretty and said “Hi” as we neared each other. She kept on walking and didn’t even have the grace to respond to me. How dare she! That foul bitch. I felt so humiliated that I went to one of the school bathrooms, locked myself in a toilet stall, and cried for an hour.
Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if the reason she didn't respond was because his "Hi" was so soft she didn't even notice it.

She almost certainly did hear him; as Homo Sapiens Sapiens, our ears are exquisitely sensitive; if she did not hear him, she would have seen his vocalizations.

She rejected him, but, his error was taking the rejection personally. She may have been in a fulfilling relationship and not looking, or, she may not have found him "good enough". Either way, she did not reject him due to personal reasons; she did not even know him. She was simply fulfilling her biological destiny, as we all do, including him.
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#74
RE: Sexual desire seems to be a curse for men
Saying hello takes very few calories. And, if you are talented you can convey additional info like I value you as much as any stranger but I am not expending any energy on that now. Length of eye contact, intonation, and duration of voice go along way.
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#75
RE: Sexual desire seems to be a curse for men
(December 23, 2022 at 6:48 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(December 23, 2022 at 6:07 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: And even that was part of a bigger problem for Elliot: despite whining about how women rejected him, that wasn't even the case. You can't be rejected by women if you don't put yourself out there. If his entire 141-page manifesto/autobiography is any indication, he only passed that hurdle once in his life. Here's how it went:
Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if the reason she didn't respond was because his "Hi" was so soft she didn't even notice it.

She almost certainly did hear him; as Homo Sapiens Sapiens, our ears are exquisitely sensitive; if she did not hear him, she would have seen his vocalizations.

She rejected him, but, his error was taking the rejection personally.  She may have been in a fulfilling relationship and not looking, or, she may not have found him "good enough".  Either way, she did not reject him due to personal reasons; she did not even know him.  She was simply fulfilling her biological destiny, as we all do, including him.

And to drive the point home, it doesn't matter why one person refuses the advances of another. I don't owe any stranger a thing, nor does any woman I try to flirt with owe me anything, and so on.

The OP's sense of disappointed, unfulfilled entitlement is the real issue.

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#76
RE: Sexual desire seems to be a curse for men
Among women in the United States, infertility rates are around 20%, which means that the genes in those women's germ lines end with them. College-educated women who do not marry by age 30 more often than not never do; the majority of them will remain childless.

If the goal is to have sex, that's one thing; if the goal is to have children, that's another. Yet another thing that Elliot is failing to factor into his calculus.

Addendum: He's dead; never knew about him until this thread.
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#77
RE: Sexual desire seems to be a curse for men
(December 23, 2022 at 6:48 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(December 23, 2022 at 6:07 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: And even that was part of a bigger problem for Elliot: despite whining about how women rejected him, that wasn't even the case. You can't be rejected by women if you don't put yourself out there. If his entire 141-page manifesto/autobiography is any indication, he only passed that hurdle once in his life. Here's how it went:
Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if the reason she didn't respond was because his "Hi" was so soft she didn't even notice it.

She almost certainly did hear him; as Homo Sapiens Sapiens, our ears are exquisitely sensitive; if she did not hear him, she would have seen his vocalizations.

She rejected him, but, his error was taking the rejection personally.  She may have been in a fulfilling relationship and not looking, or, she may not have found him "good enough".  Either way, she did not reject him due to personal reasons; she did not even know him.  She was simply fulfilling her biological destiny, as we all do, including him.
True, his error was taking the rejection personally. I can think of dozens of reasons why she didn't respond, without any biological imperative involved.
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#78
RE: Sexual desire seems to be a curse for men
I understand the feelings of frustration that a lack of success can bring, but I do not get the feelings of resentment and anger -- they are pathological. Entitlement about what others are suppose to do for you is toxic.
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#79
RE: Sexual desire seems to be a curse for men
Here's my take on this - the OP is looking to get laid. He's not looking for a relationship. There are women out there looking to get laid and not for a relationship. OP is focusing on the wrong group of women. His desperation is going to turn any woman away who isn't out for quick romp.

I don't OP understands there's a difference.
  
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RE: Sexual desire seems to be a curse for men
(December 23, 2022 at 9:36 pm)Uberpod Wrote: I understand the feelings of frustration that a lack of success can bring, but I do not get the feelings of resentment and anger -- they are pathological. Entitlement about what others are suppose to do for you is toxic.

It depends on how one defines "success". If one's goal is marriage with children, then marrying someone who is beautiful, yet infertile, may not be viewed as being "successful". Or, marrying someone who turns out to be adulterous. Or, someone who turns out to be a poor mother or father.

To the OP (and others), I would say that you should establish your goals in love and work, and with respect to the former, there's nothing wrong with mediocrity. As a parent of five children, I would rather that all of my children marry a homely spouse who is lovng and faithful than someone beautiful who turns out to be lying and unfaithful. In my opinion, how relationships end is much more important than how they begin, and, so, when lusting do your best to look at the other qualities in the individual.
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