Christian and Atheism Worldwide Demographics: Current Realities and Future Trends.

[Fake Messiah]

If you think Communism and Atheism have nothing to do with each other, that's willful blindness on your part.

Nishant is just repeating his lie in hopes that it becomes truth, like his fellow Catholic Joseph Goebbels.

[Deesse23]

To Deese the Militant Atheist: Right back at you, liar. You're the liar and I'm going to ignore your future posts from now on if you keep up the insults. If you think Communism and
Atheism have nothing to do with each other, that's willful blindness on your part. While it's true that not every Atheist is a Communist,

Bolding mine.
Way to go, calling me a liar while being engaged in a lie.

You just admitted to lying yourself. The only other possible explanation is that you are unimaginably stupid. But for the last time, because you are so dense: Atheism is the rejection of any god claim. PERIOD
Killing people in the name of atheism, drinking milk in the name of atheism, or being a commie, all those are NOT atheism. Killing people who eat shrimp (or probably witches) tho, thats very christian. You know why? Because your holy book claims that your god commanded them. Atheism does not command killing people, idiot.*

Oh, and i am not militant. I am the most fucking peaceful person you will ever meet. I am just not submitting to your bullshit. I know you are not used to that. But lets make a test for being militant: Ask me if i would ever command, support or condone genocide (or slavery for that matter). Then, go and read your Bible tell us and what your god commanded.
I am also not joining christian forums and try to evangelize, and then get offended when the christians dont bow down in awe to all my fallacious bullcrap. I am not the one who opens up countless threads trying to sell snake oil. That would be....you.


*and yes, i keep verbally abusing you. I will keep calling you an idiot and a liar, as long as you are behaving like an idiot and making statements of which you must know they are false.

[The Grand Nudger]

Absence, abstinence, it hardly matters does it…as religion requires neither thing and the religious are t particularly good at either thing.

Still, if you think feeding the poor is something you ought to do - then maybe go do that instead of wasting your time bullshitting yourself and other people here with us?

There’s the real sin. You’ll fail to abstain from it….in fact, engaging in it is the only reason that you’re here to begin with.

[Bucky Ball]

To Deese the Militant Atheist: Right back at you, liar. You're the liar and I'm going to ignore your future posts from now on if you keep up the insults. If you think Communism and
Atheism have nothing to do with each other, that's willful blindness on your part. While it's true that not every Atheist is a Communist,

Bolding mine.
Way to go, calling me a liar while being engaged in a lie.

You just admitted to lying yourself. The only other possible explanation is that you are unimaginably stupid. But for the last time, because you are so dense: Atheism is the rejection of any god claim. PERIOD
Killing people in the name of atheism, drinking milk in the name of atheism, or being a commie, all those are NOT atheism. Killing people who eat shrimp (or probably witches) tho, thats very christian. You know why? Because your holy book claims that your god commanded them. Atheism does not command killing people, idiot.*

Oh, and i am not militant. I am the most fucking peaceful person you will ever meet. I am just not submitting to your bullshit. I know you are not used to that. But lets make a test for being militant: Ask me if i would ever command, support or condone genocide (or slavery for that matter). Then, go and read your Bible tell us and what your god commanded.
I am also not joining christian forums and try to evangelize, and then get offended when the christians dont bow down in awe to all my fallacious bullcrap. I am not the one who opens up countless threads trying to sell snake oil. That would be....you.


*and yes, i keep verbally abusing you. I will keep calling you an idiot and a liar, as long as you are behaving like an idiot and making statements of which you must know they are false.

The early Christians were Communists. (See Acts of the Apostles). 

It's hilarious these people call some atheists out and criticize "militant atheists", yet have nothing to says about the very same behavior "evangelicals" (militant believers). LMAO
So far (I've read all his threads) he has remarkably nothing to add here. I'm still laughing about he Lee Strobel quote ... the runt / butt / laughing-stock of the evangelical bs authors.  
All he has posted so far are copy-pasta of childish right-wing uneducated nonsense he found on evangelical or Answers-in-Genesis sites.

[Nishant Xavier]

Deese, you should read Nobel Laureate and Award-Winning Russian Historian Alexander Solzhenitsyn on Marxism/Communism. Btw, you know Marx was a "devout"[/sarcasm] Atheist, and said "Religion is the Opium of the Masses", right? He was an Anti-Religious Militant Atheist and one of the Most Famous Atheists ever. Own it. Here is Solzhenitsyn: "“Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened." Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.”

Where are the Holocaust Memorials to those 60 MN poor Russian People, most of whom were Christians (Wiki's estimate of 20 MN is probably underestimated; since Russia, Ukraine et al - 10 MN Ukrainians were killed in the Holodomor under Atheistic Communist Jo Stalin - were like 80% Christian Countries; it's thus probable that somewhere like 45-48 MN of the 60 MN Solzhenitsyn mentions were Christians who died under Atheism)? The world doesn't want to erect them, though this Forgotten Holocaust in the East claimed many times more victims than that in the west; and the reason is clear: just like Stalin didn't want word of the Holodomor getting out, because then Churchill, FDR, etc would not negotiate with him, so also, even today, Atheists don't want word to go out that Atheists, with no fear of God or Hell, terribly persecuted Christians and killed 10s of MNs of us.

Fake Messiah, and do you know, in Three Popes and the Jews,Jewish Scholar Pinchas Lapide documents that Pope Ven. Pius XII was responsible for saving nearly 1 MN Jews during the western Holocaust? Do some reading and learn these things. Here is the source: "The Catholic Church, under the pontificate of Pius XII was instrumental in saving at least 700,000 but probably as many as 860,000 Jews from certain death at Nazi hands". So while Atheists were killing millions of Christians in the 20th Century, the Church and the Popes saved nearly 1 Million innocent lives. Those who have defamed Pope Pius XII's reputation are guilty of slander, in light of these objective historical facts.

As for lying, yes, of course it is a sin, no matter why it is done, as St. Paul says in one of his Epistles; we cannot do evil that good may come, the ends do not justify the means. It is a venial sin if it is a light matter and will be punished in Purgatory; it is a mortal sin if it is a grave matter, like perjury or bearing false witness to harm someone else, forbidden in the Eighth Commandment, and thus will be punished in Hell if unrepented of.

No, Christians were never Marxists/Communists. Marx's Philosophy said Religion was evil and Harmful, and that's what Communists implemented. Marx's Philosophy is pathetic and wrong. The Early Christians were Distributists. Distributism is a Christian School of Economics. It would support things like a Q-UBI for the Poor. But it wouldn't support Marx's false Anti-Christian and Anti-Religious moral views, which were gravely immoral. Marx himself admitted he couldn't derive an Is from an Ought, thus showing all his errors came from his Atheism and Moral Subjectivism.

[The Grand Nudger]

Sounds like commie shit to me. I prefer free market Jesus.

[Angrboda]

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[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Deese, you should read Nobel Laureate and Award-Winning Russian Historian Alexander Solzhenitsyn on Marxism/Communism. Btw, you know Marx was a "devout"[/sarcasm] Atheist, and said "Religion is the Opium of the Masses", right? He was an Anti-Religious Militant Atheist and one of the Most Famous Atheists ever. Own it. Here is Solzhenitsyn: "“Over a half century ago, while I was still a child, I recall hearing a number of old people offer the following explanation for the great disasters that had befallen Russia: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened." Since then I have spent well-nigh 50 years working on the history of our revolution; in the process I have read hundreds of books, collected hundreds of personal testimonies, and have already contributed eight volumes of my own toward the effort of clearing away the rubble left by that upheaval. But if I were asked today to formulate as concisely as possible the main cause of the ruinous revolution that swallowed up some 60 million of our people, I could not put it more accurately than to repeat: "Men have forgotten God; that's why all this has happened.”

Where are the Holocaust Memorials to those 60 MN poor Russian People, most of whom were Christians (Wiki's estimate of 20 MN is probably underestimated; since Russia, Ukraine et al - 10 MN Ukrainians were killed in the Holodomor under Atheistic Communist Jo Stalin - were like 80% Christian Countries; it's thus probable that somewhere like 45-48 MN of the 60 MN Solzhenitsyn mentions were Christians who died under Atheism)? The world doesn't want to erect them, though this Forgotten Holocaust in the East claimed many times more victims than that in the west; and the reason is clear: just like Stalin didn't want word of the Holodomor getting out, because then Churchill, FDR, etc would not negotiate with him, so also, even today, Atheists don't want word to go out that Atheists, with no fear of God or Hell, terribly persecuted Christians and killed 10s of MNs of us.

Fake Messiah, and do you know, in Three Popes and the Jews,Jewish Scholar Pinchas Lapide documents that Pope Ven. Pius XII was responsible for saving nearly 1 MN Jews during the western Holocaust? Do some reading and learn these things. Here is the source: "The Catholic Church, under the pontificate of Pius XII was instrumental in saving at least 700,000 but probably as many as 860,000 Jews from certain death at Nazi hands". So while Atheists were killing millions of Christians in the 20th Century, the Church and the Popes saved nearly 1 Million innocent lives. Those who have defamed Pope Pius XII's reputation are guilty of slander, in light of these objective historical facts.

As for lying, yes, of course it is a sin, no matter why it is done, as St. Paul says in one of his Epistles; we cannot do evil that good may come, the ends do not justify the means. It is a venial sin if it is a light matter and will be punished in Purgatory; it is a mortal sin if it is a grave matter, like perjury or bearing false witness to harm someone else, forbidden in the Eighth Commandment, and thus will be punished in Hell if unrepented of.

No, Christians were never Marxists/Communists. Marx's Philosophy said Religion was evil and Harmful, and that's what Communists implemented. Marx's Philosophy is pathetic and wrong. The Early Christians were Distributists. Distributism is a Christian School of Economics. It would support things like a Q-UBI for the Poor. But it wouldn't support Marx's false Anti-Christian and Anti-Religious moral views, which were gravely immoral. Marx himself admitted he couldn't derive an Is from an Ought, thus showing all his errors came from his Atheism and Moral Subjectivism.

So, the serpent chatting with Eve is literal, but the bit about forgiving debts is a metaphor?

Boru

[Bucky Ball]

No, Christians were never Marxists/Communists. Marx's Philosophy said Religion was evil and Harmful, and that's what Communists implemented. Marx's Philosophy is pathetic and wrong. The Early Christians were Distributists. Distributism is a Christian School of Economics. It would support things like a Q-UBI for the Poor. But it wouldn't support Marx's false Anti-Christian and Anti-Religious moral views, which were gravely immoral. Marx himself admitted he couldn't derive an Is from an Ought, thus showing all his errors came from his Atheism and Moral Subjectivism.

No one ever said the early Christians were Marxist Communists. 
Do try to follow along, dear. 
We don't need your boring sermons on your opinions.

[Nishant Xavier]

Not following, Brian. Where did I say that and what do you mean? Please elaborate.

Anyway, coming back to Demographics a little, Many Christian Denominations are planning a Billion Soul Harvest/Outreach by 2033. Let's see how it goes, but my expectation is Christendom will cross 3 BN Souls even quicker than demographers project. Demographers make their best guess based on current data, but the Holy Spirit has Plans of His own. Demographers say there will be around 3.35 BN Christians only by 2050. My expectation is it'll happen much faster than that. Let's revisit in a few years and see how it went. But in the meanwhile, pls explain what you're talking about. We were speaking about Communism, Nazism, Atheism, Marxism etc. Where does debt come into the picture? Are you speaking about Q-UBI that I mentioned?

Rahul Gandhi, India's Main Opposition Candidate, who might become PM after May 2024, had proposed something like a Q-UBI for the Bottom 20% of India's Poor, of about 6000 Rs/Month, something I strongly support, because it would basically eradicate Extreme Poverty in India; not complete poverty, but extreme; I advocated for something like it even before it was proposed, and have continued to do so. It's called Nyuntam Aay Yojana, or NYAY, which is also a Hindi Word meaning Justice. I updated the Wikipedia page on that responding to some specious objections from various sophists with Economic Data and Facts. One must do Good Things for the Poor, but also in a sensible way without getting into Endless Debt.

Of course it will come from Tax Revenue, but I'm happy for my Tax Money to go toward that end; it's also only a small Portion of Total Tax Revenue: Wiki: "According to World-Bank and IMF estimates, India’s nominal income in 2018 was about ₹185 lakh crore ($2670 billion), and India was the seventh largest economy in the world. In this situation, 25 crore poorest people could legitimately claim 1.9 per cent as their share in the national income. If the Centre can spend more than ₹1 lakh crore on its 85 lakh employees (45 lakh in service and 40 lakh pension-holders) as per the Seventh Pay Commission’s recommendations; and if the same amount of money is spent towards oil subsidy to reduce the so-called losses of the oil-companies— why should 25 crore people not deserve ₹3.60-lakh crore or 1.9 per cent of the national income?" ... It is true that rapid and broad-based growth will reduce poverty, and, in the medium to long term, eliminate poverty. On the other hand, decisive and focused intervention has the capacity to eliminate poverty within a decade. Congress, therefore, sets the goal of elimination of abject poverty by the year 2030."[25] This mirrors the UN's Agenda 2030 while being specific to the Indian Nation."