Islam owns atheism with a single verse

[The Grand Nudger]

How do you feel about having having gay sex, blissfully? Forever.

[Bucky Ball]

Not because you say so.
There's nothing miraculous about the emergence of the Qur'an. Just like all the other writing of the day, it "borrowed" many well-known stories from surrounding cultures.

1. Moses and the Fish, (came from Babylon/Ugarit/the El myths),
2. Solomon listening to the ants, common fairy tales, existing all over the Ancient Near East,
3. Jinns, (genies) working for Solomon, both common fairy tales, existing all over the Ancient Near East,
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I think I told you before that copying and pasting garbage claims from christian polemics isn't going to help you.

Stick to ONE Topic, got it ? one. And when you do, please defend your claim with your own words and stop flooding the thread with copied nonsense.

As for your garbage claim that the Qur'an "borrowed" stuff : in case you didn't know, and apparently you don't, there were many instances of divine revelation before Muhammad, according to Islam itself, and in fact, all prophets are Muslims (e.g. share the same core message of monotheism that Muhammad PBUH proclaimed) . So any similarity between the Qur'an and age-old stories can always be explained by the latter being remnants of pre-Islam divine revelation.

LOL. Oh, so *that's* it. LOL An excuse for everything. 
The sources (which you seemed to have missed, and are KNOWN Christian MYTHS. 
But you told a lot of things before, including you are done with me. 
I'm glad you find what I post important enough to prove you're a liar. 
You're not the boss here, fuckwad. I'll post what I want. 
You really should learn some actual history, so you don't continue to look so ignorant.
We get you have a bad life, and need to pretend it will be better in heaven.
Have you read all the nursery rhymes ?

I have a question for you.
If Islam is so great why is it so many millions of Muslims have emigrated from Islamic countries to Christian countries and countries where non-belief is predominant ?
Take your time.

And why is it, there is no record of Muhammed's activities during the Arabic calendar leap months, BEFORE they changed the calendar ?

[Anomalocaris]

i think he is the product of an essentially sheltered religious education, “modernized” by cherry picking and distorting such parts of products of science and reason as to seem to the ignoramus religious “teachers” to be useful to defend some ancient myth before a captive audience whose intellectual development can be controlled.     perhaps a private school version of madrasa.

that is why he is clueless enough and ignorant of the world to make his bombastic claims in his didactic tone without apparent fear, or expectation, or tolerance of contradiction.

[Deesse23]

Knowing that some of my atheist family and friends will not be with me in this "eternal bliss" is not eternal bliss but pure horror for ME

If your friends or family screw up and don't get eternal bliss, they only have themselves to blame, it's divine justice, and so it applies to everybody : including your (and my) loved ones. It's extremely hard to accept that, but that's what divine justice means.

If you don't want to accept that, then you'll be a hypocrite, you want your loved ones to get the ultimate divine reward without deserving it. That's human and understandable, everybody wants their loved ones to not go to jail, for example. But if they do break the law and get caught, you can't really say it's unfair to you because you'll be too sad to see them face justice. Yes, you'll feel really bad for them, but then what, can you really blame the justice system? -can you really blame divine justice because it's too much for your feelings ?

Thank you for demonstrating what a caricature of a human being you are.
And thank you for demonstrating that my point went far over your head, probably because you are such a piece of work. Do your friends and family know how much you actually love them?

Look at how religion poisoned your mind. It made you someone who would be happy for eternity, not spending a single thought to all the "loved ones" who couldnt bring themselves to believe in unsubstantiated bullshit. IF your religion is true, then your god is cruel for expecting people to believe without sufficient evidence, and even more so for making you (and every other believer) such a terrible person, and thats "best case" for you. Worst case, your religion is all bullshit and you have made such a shitty person out of yourself for nothing.

Congratulations.  

[Astreja]

If your friends or family screw up and don't get eternal bliss, they only have themselves to blame, it's divine justice, and so it applies to everybody : including your (and my) loved ones. It's extremely hard to accept that, but that's what divine justice means.

LD, eternal punishment for actions committed in a finite lifetime is not "justice." It is injustice. The punishment does not fit the crime.

If your god existed and created a place for eternally tormenting sentient beings, even if only one person was sent there, the act of not rescuing that person would make your god infinitely evil.

Why do you worship an infinitely evil god, LD?

[Loaded dice]

I have a question for you.
If Islam is so great why is it so many millions of Muslims have emigrated from Islamic countries to Christian countries and countries where non-belief is predominant ?

Because it's not exactly a secret that Muslim countries suffer a great many of political and economic issues that hamper their development. Islam isn't responsible for these problems, (case in point : Muslims already had a Golden Age + atheist states like North Korea aren't doing great either)

that is why he is clueless enough and ignorant of the world to make his bombastic claims in his didactic tone without apparent fear, or expectation, or tolerance of contradiction.

Most people in the world today believe in heaven and hell -and that their loved ones may end up in hell, you're really deluded about the world you claim to know so much about. Stop gaslighting our worldview, it's not going to work.

LD, eternal punishment for actions committed in a finite lifetime is not "justice."  It is injustice. 

There is no relationship whatsoever between the duration of a crime and that of the punishment. Murdering someone may only take a few seconds, and one can get a life sentence for it. You didn't really think this through, did you ?

[Anomalocaris]

Most facts are unknown to most people,  most people think ill informed intuition further tainted by irrational fears and undisciplined desires has any value in arriving at understanding of reality.  so what most people think is irrelevant.   What is more, you exhibit the full measure of the worst attributes that made what most people think irrelevant, what you think is also irrelevant to at least the same degree.


Also,  “most people” is perhaps the most clueless and incompetent way of gaslighting that could be imagined.   So Credos for not being the merely second most clueless and incompetent.

[Astreja]

LD, eternal punishment for actions committed in a finite lifetime is not "justice."  It is injustice.

There is no relationship whatsoever between the duration of a crime and that of the punishment. Murdering someone may only take a few seconds, and one can get a life sentence for it. You didn't really think this through, did you ?

Terrible example, LD. If someone commits premeditated murder, I'm fine with them facing life imprisonment - losing the enjoyment of the rest of their own life as punishment for the life that they destroyed. I'm not okay with bringing them back to life after their death, and subjecting them to torture.

In the case of religion, it's utterly absurd that a god would deliberately torture people for disbelief. Disbelief that does not cause any actual injury, let alone injury to a supposedly all-powerful deity. Disbelief that is likely outside the conscious control of the individual. Believing or not believing something is not an action; it's a conclusion that has been reached after assessing the available information.

[Bucky Ball]

I have a question for you.
If Islam is so great why is it so many millions of Muslims have emigrated from Islamic countries to Christian countries and countries where non-belief is predominant ?

Because it's not exactly a secret that Muslim countries suffer a great many of political and economic issues that hamper their development. Islam isn't responsible for these problems, (case in point : Muslims already had a Golden Age + atheist states like North Korea aren't doing great either)

that is why he is clueless enough and ignorant of the world to make his bombastic claims in his didactic tone without apparent fear, or expectation, or tolerance of contradiction.

Most people in the world today believe in heaven and hell -and that their loved ones may end up in hell, you're really deluded about the world you claim to know so much about. Stop gaslighting our worldview, it's not going to work.

LD, eternal punishment for actions committed in a finite lifetime is not "justice."  It is injustice. 

There is no relationship whatsoever between the duration of a crime and that of the punishment. Murdering someone may only take a few seconds, and one can get a life sentence for it. You didn't really think this through, did you ?

You just happened to forget to answer this : 
"And why is it, there is no record of Muhammed's activities during the Arabic calendar leap months, BEFORE they changed the calendar ?"
Obviously they made up the Hadith, and forgot about the calendar change.

BTW, obviously Allah doesn't give a shit about Islamic countries.
Northern European countries are doing great. They have a majority of non-believers.
Muslims are flocking to atheist countries.
Thanks again for proving you lie, and in fact are not "done with me".

[The Architect Of Fate]

There is no relationship whatsoever between the duration of a crime and that of the punishment. Murdering someone may only take a few seconds, and one can get a life sentence for it. You didn't really think this through, did you ?

There is a difference between locking up a murderer for taking a finite life and torturing someone forever for taking a finite life. If we tortured people forever for murder we would be freaking monsters. So no it's you who clearly hasn't put much thought into your answer. And torturing someone forever for a thought crime is utterly horrific oh and your god can never be a victim of an offense by the way.