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Is Atheism a Religion? Why or why not?
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Quote:God's Existence is as mathematically certain as the fact that an infinite number of contingent beings cannot exist. That is the Demonstration from Contingency. Since these contingent beings cannot go on indefinitely, they terminate in a First Cause, an Eternal First Being, Almighty God.And none of the above is the case
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! ![]() “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM (July 24, 2023 at 11:27 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: God's Existence is as mathematically certain as the fact that an infinite number of contingent beings cannot exist. Incorrect. A mathematical proof isn't a scientific indication of reality, because it doesn't rely on observational data as science does.
"What a little moonlight can do." ~ Billie Holiday
RE: Is Atheism a Religion? Why or why not?
July 24, 2023 at 11:35 pm
(This post was last modified: July 24, 2023 at 11:43 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(July 24, 2023 at 11:27 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: God's Existence is as mathematically certain as the fact that an infinite number of contingent beings cannot exist. That is the Demonstration from Contingency. Since these contingent beings cannot go on indefinitely, they terminate in a First Cause, an Eternal First Being, Almighty God. Bless your fucking god too. So then, if you have all this certainty you have no need of faith. That's sad for you, as your cult says you are saved by your faith. See you in a very low level in heaven, when you get out of Purgatory, after many years. Your arrogant preaching hermeneutic should be confessed. Shame on you. The Immaculate Heart of Mary frowns on this shit. Say 1 "Hail Mary" as you penance. "Hail Mary, full of grace, may someone hot, sit on your face. Amen" You're nothing but a cheap troll. Get lost asshole. The person you are trying to convince is yourself. You're on the way to atheism. Congrats.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
![]() Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist (July 24, 2023 at 11:27 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: God's Existence is as mathematically certain as the fact that an infinite number of contingent beings cannot exist. That is the Demonstration from Contingency. Since these contingent beings cannot go on indefinitely, they terminate in a First Cause, an Eternal First Being, Almighty God. You never bothered to show that the first cause was God, despite this having been pointed out to you. Now you're just trying to blow smoke up our ass. Why are you such a dishonest weasel? ![]() RE: Is Atheism a Religion? Why or why not?
July 24, 2023 at 11:42 pm
(This post was last modified: July 24, 2023 at 11:53 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:Now, let's get back to the issue. One of the absurd things I heard Mr. Hitchens say in his debate where he got badly defeated by Dr. Craig, even according to Atheistic Websites, was: "There's no claim I know to make that Atheism is True, because Atheism is the Proposition that a Certain Proposition isn't True". This is an elementary/textbook logical fallacy, a classic Hitchensism. Who told you this, Hitchens? Granted that for a Proposition P, Q is the negation of P, the affirmation that P is not True, it in no way follows that Q does not have a Truth Value of its own. Of course, it does, the opposite Truth Value. Thus, if P is the Proposition "It is raining outside", Q, the negation of P, "It is not raining outside" of course has a Truth Value of its own, contra Hitchens. If P is True, Q is false. If Q is true, P is false. This is sheer sophistry from MA Hitchens.Sigh Actually, we are talking about objective reality. You are making claims about reality and I'm not buying them. Again if the pro-mars people are making a reality-based claim about the existence of Mars unless they can prove Mars exists I am perfectly within my right to not accept the reality-based claims about Mars. It's amazing you wrote all this out only to completely miss the point ![]() Quote:Ok, agreed. "I believe Mars does not exist" and "I do not believe Mars exists" are not the same; however, that's just a question of degrees. A dogmatic "strong" A-Mars-ist would say, I absolutely affirm, with 100% certainty, that no such thing as a Planet Mars exists! A non-dogmatic "weak" (to use the same language Dawkins uses on his "scale"), non-dogmatic A-Mars-ist would say, "I lack a belief in the Planet Mars. I'm fairly sure no such Planet exists, maybe 90% sure. However, I don't want to affirm absolutely that it could not exist". Whether that or something like that is what Dawkins meant by giving himself a 6.9, I don't know.Again we don't need to assign percentages it remains perfectly sound to reject the claim Mars exists till the people claiming it exists to prove it. This really isn't complicated
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! ![]() “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
You have no reason to maliciously slander me like that, but of course you're not bound to the Christian Code of Ethics. So I expect that and I forgive you. And oh yes, I did. Go back and read what I showed about the First Cause being what Scholastic Philosophy calls Pure Actuality, A Being in whom there is no Potentiality. Since there is no contingency in the First Being, there is no potentiality in this being either, nothing that He can become that He is already not.
I see a great deal of claims with zero evidence to back up the existence of this being.
"What a little moonlight can do." ~ Billie Holiday
RE: Is Atheism a Religion? Why or why not?
July 24, 2023 at 11:47 pm
(This post was last modified: July 24, 2023 at 11:51 pm by The Architect Of Fate.)
Quote:ou have no reason to maliciously slander me like that, but of course you're not bound to the Christian Code of Ethics. So I expect that and I forgive you. And oh yes, I did. Go back and read what I showed about the First Cause being what Scholastic Philosophy calls Pure Actuality, A Being in whom there is no Potentiality. Since there is no contingency in the First Being, there is no potentiality in this being either, nothing that He can become that He is already not.No one has slandered you snowflake and you have no business forgiving anyone. Also, you showed nothing of any merit or value per usual
"Change was inevitable"
Nemo sicut deus debet esse! ![]() “No matter what men think, abortion is a fact of life. Women have always had them; they always have and they always will. Are they going to have good ones or bad ones? Will the good ones be reserved for the rich, while the poor women go to quacks?” –SHIRLEY CHISHOLM
What a crock, this manipulative, dishonest scumbag whining on about a code of ethics.
Still waiting for why you are here, fuck face. |
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