2024 US Presidential Election

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

[LinuxGal]

They make the case that Section 3 is self-executing and requires no conviction for the insurrection and no Congressional enforcement. Essentially, Trump can be barred from holding ANY public office, not just the presidency, because his is already disqualified.

It requires Supreme Court enforcement and Trump can raise a lot of vacation money to pay off the justices.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

They make the case that Section 3 is self-executing and requires no conviction for the insurrection and no Congressional enforcement. Essentially, Trump can be barred from holding ANY public office, not just the presidency, because his is already disqualified.

It requires Supreme Court enforcement and Trump can raise a lot of vacation money to pay off the justices.

They addressed that in the paper. If just one supervisor of elections removes Trump from the ballot under Section 3, Trump would have the right of appeal. The authors don’t fancy his chances in front of a Supreme Court with so many originalists on the bench.

Boru

[Thumpalumpacus]

[The Architect Of Fate]

Originalism is like Biblical Literalism 

It's a sham because the authors of neither text adhered to them.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Originalism is like Biblical Literalism 

It's a sham because the authors of neither text adhered to them.

That's right. Additionally, both documents are heavily cherry-picked for what is literal/original vs what is metaphorical/inferred.

[Thumpalumpacus]

[Aegon]

I'm actually kind of surprised he made that decision. Trump's usually good in debate situations... I mean, he doesn't know policy for shit but he's definitely mastered the art of the roast and has the charisma to make his opponents look small even when they're right. I still think some of the clips of him roasting Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz back in 2015/2016 are legitimately hilarious.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I'm actually kind of surprised he made that decision. Trump's usually good in debate situations... I mean, he doesn't know policy for shit but he's definitely mastered the art of the roast and has the charisma to make his opponents look small even when they're right. I still think some of the clips of him roasting Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz back in 2015/2016 are legitimately hilarious.

The difference being that in 2015/2016, Trump didn't have four indictments and a 35-point lead in opinion polls. He's got nothing to gain and everything to lose by stepping onto that debate stage.

Plus, I think he's actually afraid of Chris Christie.

Boru

[Aegon]

I'm actually kind of surprised he made that decision. Trump's usually good in debate situations... I mean, he doesn't know policy for shit but he's definitely mastered the art of the roast and has the charisma to make his opponents look small even when they're right. I still think some of the clips of him roasting Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz back in 2015/2016 are legitimately hilarious.

The difference being that in 2015/2016, Trump didn't have four indictments and a 35-point lead in opinion polls. He's got nothing to gain and everything to lose by stepping onto that debate stage.

Plus, I think he's actually afraid of Chris Christie.

Boru

His strategy of denial and deflection would work just as well now as it ever did, IMO. Only liberals see the indictments as final nails in the coffin. Many Republicans think Democrats fabricated the coffin.