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2024 US Presidential Election
RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
This is the reason few people want the job.

Can we see another photo of Trump with Epstein?
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Honestly, the fact that the Dems aren’t making attack ads that put his association with Epstein front and center is a major missed opportunity. And, unlike a lot of people associated with Epstein, he actually has sexual misconduct allegations related to Epstein.



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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
The Waltz pick ads a lot of positive energy to the ticket. When one side is negative and the other positive, the historical trend is that the positives win most of the time. I think Harris/Waltz have this.
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(August 6, 2024 at 1:04 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I think too that Harris felt that mollifying the progressives so that they wouldn't stay home was more important than attracting more centrists.

The Dems have finally figured out that there's more votes in keeping their left on side than in trying to peel right wingers off the repugs. Took them long enough.
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
The couch line was gold. Jim Gaffigan must play him on SNL
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(August 7, 2024 at 1:51 am)Pat Mustard Wrote:
(August 6, 2024 at 1:04 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I think too that Harris felt that mollifying the progressives so that they wouldn't stay home was more important than attracting more centrists.

The Dems have finally figured out that there's more votes in keeping their left on side than in trying to peel right wingers off the repugs.  Took them long enough.

Ish.  They're hoping he's the best of both worlds.  That his climate record will bring folks like me in..and his white working class appeal will shave off magats in battleground states.  

Maga will call him a radical leftist no matter what and there are plenty of people on the blue team who are eager to believe that - but he's spent alot of time building a centrist cv.  Meanwhile, the campaign has indicated that it's moving -away- from many of her previous progressive stances on issues.  Single payer healthcare?  Adios.  Defund the police?  What she meant was "tough on crime" (that's some chefs kiss lvl shit right there, lol).  Border Control?  We need some more of that, gotta reduce the flow of asylum seekers dontcha know.  Fracking ban?  NVM.  

It's all expected, ofc, since they know "dangerous radical" is all that maga has.  It's not like they're gonna debate policy.  So defanging that by moving to the center and picking a guy like walz isn't the worst idea.  I think that progressives who believe they've found their champion in walz will be disappointed as they run that play..though.  When the other guys call someone a radical the progressives want to believe they really are, but walz himself is going to stomp the living shit out of that notion in the process of making the magats look ridiculous for making the claim.

I think walz could advocate for a green new deal persuasively, should they decide to make that a central campaign issue...or, like the biden harris admin before it, see the light after the election is done - and that would be a great use of his record and crossover.
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So, Kamala is not black enough, and Walz is not a hero enough - according to Trump and Vance.
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(August 9, 2024 at 1:51 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: So, Kamala is not black enough, and Walz is not a hero enough - according to Trump and Vance.

It's funny. Kamala isn't black because only one of her parents were black. Obama was black because only one of his parents were black.

As for who Vance thinks is a "hero", his ass was at a podium holding a pointer ... and he seems to have forgotten the core of his oath anyway.

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The neo-nazis think trump has gone soft and/or been bought out by global jewry and/or deep state plants. Nick Fuentes has revoked his support for the mad king. Say's they're headed for "catastrophic loss". Classic misalignment of interests. No one believes that the donald was going to win at the ballot box or let things be decided there - but this is what the white supremacists need to validate their worldview.
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Word is that Steve Martin will play Walz on SNL. I like Steve. He's a polymath. Maybe Gaffigan and NBC have beef.
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