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2024 US Presidential Election
RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(October 2, 2024 at 12:55 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(October 2, 2024 at 11:19 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Then why am I not free to sell my spare organs? Wink

Boru

I suspect governments are less interested in freedom than control.

I suspect you’re right.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(October 2, 2024 at 11:19 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(October 2, 2024 at 9:01 am)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: It's perhaps most basic of rights - right to decide about one own body. Nobody who is against it could seriously claim to be pro anything approaching freedom.

Then why am I not free to sell my spare organs? Wink

Boru

You are free to do so. I don't advise it.

What are these spare organs you have spawned? Gills? Tentacles?
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(October 2, 2024 at 1:29 pm)Nanny Wrote:
(October 2, 2024 at 11:19 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Then why am I not free to sell my spare organs? Wink

Boru

You are free to do so. I don't advise it.

What are these spare organs you have spawned? Gills? Tentacles?

Spare kidney, spare lung, more liver lobes than I need.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(October 2, 2024 at 12:55 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(October 2, 2024 at 11:19 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Then why am I not free to sell my spare organs? Wink

Boru

I suspect governments are less interested in freedom than control.

I suppose that depends on what one means by 'freedom', and I'd probably word it that entrenched power structures are most motivated by remaining entrenched. The rest is window dressing.
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
(October 2, 2024 at 5:52 pm)Jackalope Wrote:
(October 2, 2024 at 12:55 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I suspect governments are less interested in freedom than control.

I suppose that depends on what one means by 'freedom', and I'd probably word it that entrenched power structures are most motivated by remaining entrenched.  The rest is window dressing.

Yeah, it's six of one, half-dozen of another. Remaining entrenched equates to retaining control. Simply asserting the gov't's right to make such decisions in itself means that they are arguing for the gov't retention of control of very personal decisions.

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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
Bruce Springsteen Endorses Kamala Harris And Calls Donald Trump "The Most Dangerous Candidate For President Of My Lifetime"

https://deadline.com/2024/10/bruce-sprin...236106989/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
How can Trump claim that the country is in a dire economic state where most people can't afford food and at the same time he expects from those same people to buy from him expensive watches, fake dollar bills, coins with his face, models of his airplane, crypto coins, expensive NFTs with his images, special expensive editions of Melania's book, stocks of his fake company, and other expensive stuff he is selling?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: 2024 US Presidential Election
His target market (for votes and grift) is relatively well off. He knows that, or whoever manages his merch and campaigns does. The idea that the us is in dire economic straights is no more complicated than the observation that brown people have things that ought to belong to whites, and specifically white trump supporters, aka real americans.

If they could get rid of the rest of us unpersons, they'd be really rich. Not just pretend rich in trailer built mcmansions. They'd get more school, and more hospital, and more job, and most importantly.... more respect.
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