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The Official "Damned Trump" Thread: Phase II
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025...-gaza-plan


Quote:‘No to ethnic cleansing’: over 350 rabbis sign US ad assailing Trump’s Gaza plan
"Change was inevitable"


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It's not like how USAID and many other agencies spend their money is a secret.

http://www.usaspending.gov
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(February 13, 2025 at 8:59 am)Belacqua Wrote: The winners are still the oligarchs and foreign investors, and the losers are still the Ukrainian people.
Oligarch..

"a very rich business leader with a great deal of political influence..."

Were you talking specifically about Trump and Musk, or is this just more irony?
Quote: the losers are still the Ukrainian people.
Do you think they should've just let Putin take their country without a fight, then let Putin install a puppet dictator, as he's done in Belarus?
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The more I watch events unfold, the more it appears that Trump's decisions almost invariably will result in more harm than benefit to America, and redound to the benefit of our two major competitors. This latest claim about Ukrainian negotiations, if it pans out as announced, will not only invite more Russian aggression, but Chinese as well. It appears we've elected a leveraged actor.

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We elected a quisling.
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(February 13, 2025 at 5:40 pm)Jackalope Wrote: We elected a quisling.

If American democracy survives, his name will one day be spoken here with the same contempt as Benedict Arnold's ... if not more.

That is, if the records of his perfidy survive the Musk vacuum cleaner.

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^ Even if American democracy doesn't survive.
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(February 13, 2025 at 10:10 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(February 13, 2025 at 5:40 pm)Jackalope Wrote: We elected a quisling.

If American democracy survives, his name will one day be spoken here with the same contempt as Benedict Arnold's ... if not more.

Questionable. There's a significant portion of the American public for whom he can do no wrong, and who are unlikely to be moved from that position even after he is gone.
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(February 13, 2025 at 10:33 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(February 13, 2025 at 10:10 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: If American democracy survives, his name will one day be spoken here with the same contempt as Benedict Arnold's ... if not more.

Questionable.  There's a significant portion of the American public for whom he can do no wrong, and who are unlikely to be moved from that position even after he is gone.

Perhaps, but they too will have to pass, or make their case.

Remember, Arnold had his supporters as well even as the Revolutionary War unfolded.

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If Trump sells F-35s to India, the era of US air dominance is over. He might as well send them to Moscow because that's where they'll end up.

Quote:US President Donald Trump said Thursday that the United States will sell F-35 fighter jets to India, which would join the elite club of countries with the state-of-the-art stealth planes.

"Starting this year, we'll be increasing military sales to India by many billions of dollars. We're also paving the way to ultimately provide India with the F-35 stealth fighters," Trump told a joint news conference with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/mo...97039.html
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