Ben Shapiro vs Neil deGrasse Tyson: The WAR Over Transgender Issues

[Deesse23]

and my dear, you sure love to float the idea of taking away the rights of others - how very fassy of you.

First off being trans is not a mental disorder. This is just another baseless claim of yours.

Second, I don't intend to take away the rights of others, I was just applying YOUR logic to YOUR particular group in society. That went completely over your head, and unwillingly you just argued against your own point.

Dishonest AND ignorant, what a lovely combo.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

(my bold)

TWM is too big a coward to approach this topic with any kind of intellectual honesty.

Thanks for bringing it up; I skim through the spam when I feel like swinging by, and I reckon this one must be a big one yall want addressed. I'm sorry you didn't have any family to visit or a vacation to take on your New Years, but try to understand that's not the case for all of us and watch your tongue.

I'm not sure what you mean by "cost" - of course there is always going to be a general "cost" when people suffer from mental disorders - but I don't think they differ from someone with schizophrenia, alcoholism, or alien hand syndrome; the "cost" of someone on society is determined by their actions, not by their sex or gender - or any other stereotype you want to try to fit them into. I don't buy into your hyper-collectivism, hyper-ingroup bigotry and the simple truth is that this ideology has been carefully developed by simple minds with simple goals; their own benefit at the expense of everyone else.

The cost of "Christian bigotry and misogyny" is just the cost of bigotry and misogyny - and my dear, you sure love to float the idea of taking away the rights of others - how very fassy of you.

I defer to your expertise as a Christian, a bigot, and a misogynist.

Boru

[awty]

TWM - tell us you are a troll without telling us you are a troll.

[Belacqua]

[Ravenshire]

(my bold)

TWM is too big a coward to approach this topic with any kind of intellectual honesty.

Thanks for bringing it up; I skim through the spam when I feel like swinging by, and I reckon this one must be a big one yall want addressed. I'm sorry you didn't have any family to visit or a vacation to take on your New Years, but try to understand that's not the case for all of us and watch your tongue.

I'm not sure what you mean by "cost" - of course there is always going to be a general "cost" when people suffer from mental disorders - but I don't think they differ from someone with schizophrenia, alcoholism, or alien hand syndrome; the "cost" of someone on society is determined by their actions, not by their sex or gender - or any other stereotype you want to try to fit them into. I don't buy into your hyper-collectivism, hyper-ingroup bigotry and the simple truth is that this ideology has been carefully developed by simple minds with simple goals; their own benefit at the expense of everyone else.

The cost of "Christian bigotry and misogyny" is just the cost of bigotry and misogyny - and my dear, you sure love to float the idea of taking away the rights of others - how very fassy of you.

Isn't that cute. The troll actually thinks I'm interested in engaging with it.

[The Grand Nudger]

More wokester nonsense.  No one is abrogating your rights by pissing while trans.

[Sheldon]

TheWhiteMarten

(my bold)

TWM is too big a coward to approach this topic with any kind of intellectual honesty.

I'm not sure what you mean by "cost" 

Well it was your claim, you claimed that trans people living their lives based on their gender identity, rather than their biological sex came at a cost to others, one assumes you had some idea of what this cost was, and who incurs it, when you made the claim? Though of course it could simply be another piece of the vapid bigoted rhetoric that litter your contributions here. 

of course there is always going to be a general "cost" when people suffer from mental disorders - but I don't think they differ from someone with schizophrenia, alcoholism, or alien hand syndrome; 

Gender dysphoria is not a mental disorder, and the mental health problems people with gender dysphoria may suffer from generally come from prejudice and bigotry, of the kind you have been espousing about them since you got here. This also doesn't remotely address your claim that trans people living their lives as themselves comes at a cost to others. 

As I said before, why does this bother you at all, give me one cogent honest answer I can understand?

the "cost" of someone on society is determined by their actions, not by their sex or gender - or any other stereotype you want to try to fit them into. 

How does a trans person living their lives as themselves cost society anything? 

 I don't buy into your hyper-collectivism, hyper-ingroup bigotry and the simple truth is that this ideology has been carefully developed by simple minds with simple goals; their own benefit at the expense of everyone else.

What ideology, what relevance does this latest disjointed rant have, to trans people at all? 

The cost of "Christian bigotry and misogyny" is just the cost of bigotry and misogyny - and my dear, you sure love to float the idea of taking away the rights of others - how very fassy of you.

Leaving aside the vapid tautology , and your hilariously ironic use of a misogynistic epithet, who are you claiming has suggested taking away the rights of others, what rights are you claiming they want to take away? I suspect some unexpected family demands will "miraculously" prevent you from answering this honestly of course, but hey ho.

[Thumpalumpacus]

Trans people violate his right to not be offended.

[Sheldon]

Trans people violate his right to not be offended.

This was my suspicion as well, that their very existence being acknowledged publicly even by themselves, somehow violates his Christian right to adhere to archaic religious bigotry and prejudice. 

Until he honestly answers this:

Why does the idea of trans people living their lives according to their gender identity, rather than their biological sex, bother you at all? 

All we can can do is draw a rational inference.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]