How Many Has God Killed?

[reverendjeremiah]

What is that hunk of brown shit floating off in the background? A garbage barge?

[RDK]

Any of you who have explored religion have got to conclude that most of it is filled with death and deastruction. It really does appear that god is not taking good care of business. The scriptures, from whatever source, are teaching about a creator who seems to know everything(including the future) but gets destructive when his people don't behave. Hey Johnny, Billy is not listening to me. Here is a knife. Go kill him because he is bad. If you don't , I will kill you too! What kind of sense does this make? I f you ask your typical Christian guy about this, he will run away from you at full speed shouting devil, devil devil. I was an atheist before I became Christian. I suppose that is why I have more in common with you guys here than you might think. I have come to believe that God is a being of love. All the rest has to be part of a trial. What good God would plan everthing out in great detail only to later get angry at himself for making men his own way. I have learned that everything about our existence must have some good purpose in the end. When was the last time you talked to a believer person who openly admitted that there was a problem in his book. Do I live to kill or to live to love? Every one of you has a basic sense of what is right to do. We don't always choose to do what is right, and that is where our troubles begin. Of course, I am only speaking about conscience, that something which works in some people to remind them that they have done wrong. Do I believe that God doesn't care every time I watch another flood or earthquake? Many times it is not fair to watch innocent children die and a loving God is not stepping in to warn or fix the problem. You see, I have a major problem with a God who commands faulty people to kill each other, a sinner killing a sinner. If men have been influenced by something evil to believe wrongly about a loving God, why would it happen? God, you say you love us. What's up with all the crap. You have a whole world of people who can't find reason to follow you, and I can understand their side. I am not going to blame anyone for feeling the way that they do. None of you are any worse than the rest. God gave us each a logical mind to work things out. Folks, you are courageous for taking a stand against garbage. An intelligent creator would never get upset at us because we question. Why preach fear to us?
I grew up with an angry father. It was not easy to grow up in his house. I feel the same thing about an angry God. How could you ever learn to love from someone like that?
Yet, the question of evil remains, there seems to be more of that than anyone cares to admit. Should I believe that a caring God doesn't care that we are stuck here in all of this? I know that there is a very real reason why it is here. It's all part of simple logic and reasoning that can explain why it is around at all! And don't think it has any thing to do with the Adam and Eve story. Don't believe that anything that a couple could do would bring down evil as it was written to happen.
I know that it is easier to ignore all of this stuff and just call me crazy. I know that my personal experiences don't count when it comes to objective reasoning. That is why I know that God will still look favorably to you in the end. The experiences that have happened to me can only be shared if anything I say makes any sense to any of you. I did not come to you to tell you about heaven or hell or any of that. I wanted to let you know that ther is a physical reality that you may not have experienced yet. Good news is never a curse. Thanks for your time.

[Cinjin]

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Any of you who have explored religion have got to conclude that most of it is filled with death and deastruction. It really does appear that god is not taking good care of business. The scriptures, from whatever source, are teaching about a creator who seems to know everything(including the future) but gets destructive when his people don't behave. Hey Johnny, Billy is not listening to me. Here is a knife. Go kill him because he is bad. If you don't , I will kill you too! What kind of sense does this make? I f you ask your typical Christian guy about this, he will run away from you at full speed shouting devil, devil devil. I was an atheist before I became Christian. I suppose that is why I have more in common with you guys here than you might think. I have come to believe that God is a being of love. All the rest has to be part of a trial. What good God would plan everthing out in great detail only to later get angry at himself for making men his own way. I have learned that everything about our existence must have some good purpose in the end. When was the last time you talked to a believer person who openly admitted that there was a problem in his book. Do I live to kill or to live to love? Every one of you has a basic sense of what is right to do. We don't always choose to do what is right, and that is where our troubles begin. Of course, I am only speaking about conscience, that something which works in some people to remind them that they have done wrong. Do I believe that God doesn't care every time I watch another flood or earthquake? Many times it is not fair to watch innocent children die and a loving God is not stepping in to warn or fix the problem. You see, I have a major problem with a God who commands faulty people to kill each other, a sinner killing a sinner. If men have been influenced by something evil to believe wrongly about a loving God, why would it happen? God, you say you love us. What's up with all the crap. You have a whole world of people who can't find reason to follow you, and I can understand their side. I am not going to blame anyone for feeling the way that they do. None of you are any worse than the rest. God gave us each a logical mind to work things out. Folks, you are courageous for taking a stand against garbage. An intelligent creator would never get upset at us because we question. Why preach fear to us?
I grew up with an angry father. It was not easy to grow up in his house. I feel the same thing about an angry God. How could you ever learn to love from someone like that?
Yet, the question of evil remains, there seems to be more of that than anyone cares to admit. Should I believe that a caring God doesn't care that we are stuck here in all of this? I know that there is a very real reason why it is here. It's all part of simple logic and reasoning that can explain why it is around at all! And don't think it has any thing to do with the Adam and Eve story. Don't believe that anything that a couple could do would bring down evil as it was written to happen.
I know that it is easier to ignore all of this stuff and just call me crazy. I know that my personal experiences don't count when it comes to objective reasoning. That is why I know that God will still look favorably to you in the end. The experiences that have happened to me can only be shared if anything I say makes any sense to any of you. I did not come to you to tell you about heaven or hell or any of that. I wanted to let you know that ther is a physical reality that you may not have experienced yet. Good news is never a curse. Thanks for your time.

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[RDK]

I don't want to spend a lot of time trying to convince you of something that you have never experienced before. I hear some of you saying, finally, I don't want to hear any more. That's O.K., scan to the next thread. I don't know if any of you have dealt with witchcraft power. It is a very real and powerful force when used against someone. I thought it was cool to investigate this stuff. It is not fun and games. The results can be deadly. I met a girl who used this power to do miraculous things that I couldn't explain with any kind of logic at the time. I'll share more about that if anybody wants. That was physical proof to me that there is a kind of power that people can possess. Although I do not recommend that anybody tries to do this themselves, you have to know that it is real. Some things are laughable, but the things that I experienced first hand in this physical world were too much to endure alone. There is an entity which works against those who want to do right. This being is working against us in this world to make us believe that a loving God is bad. It is that little voice or idea that comes into your head to entice you to do things that you really don't want to do. Any of you who have researched voodoo, witchcraft, devil worship, etc. have got to wonder if any of it is true. This power is responsible for the evil things in this world.
I have gone and gotten all spiritual again. I only mention this because someone wanted a piece of factual information that they can prove for themselves if they want. There are a lot of physical manifestations that can happen by connecting with either side on spirit things. There is only proof to you if you pursue to understand these. There are many things in this world that you can do to influence this world, and not all of them are so blatant as witchcraft power.
I understand that I have stepped into the imaginary for most of you. I risk making myself appear as a fool to you to make a point. Reality is not only what you can measure. By only accepting what you can see, you limit yourself to the possibility of making spiritual connections. That's why I want to share all of this with you. You probably don't want to hear more, and I understand that. I just wanted to offer a new perspective to you. You can experience healings, visions, prophecies, miracles, and helpful contact if you want. Of course, its your choice.
Non of this makes me any better than any of you. I wanted to see somebody else benefit from all of the things that have happened to me, very real physical things. It's your choice if you think that what you have is enough. It may well be, and I wish you well.

[Cinjin]

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I don't want to spend a lot of time trying to convince you of something that you have never experienced before. I hear some of you saying, finally, I don't want to hear any more. That's O.K., scan to the next thread. I don't know if any of you have dealt with witchcraft power. It is a very real and powerful force when used against someone. I thought it was cool to investigate this stuff. It is not fun and games. The results can be deadly. I met a girl who used this power to do miraculous things that I couldn't explain with any kind of logic at the time. I'll share more about that if anybody wants. That was physical proof to me that there is a kind of power that people can possess. Although I do not recommend that anybody tries to do this themselves, you have to know that it is real. Some things are laughable, but the things that I experienced first hand in this physical world were too much to endure alone. There is an entity which works against those who want to do right. This being is working against us in this world to make us believe that a loving God is bad. It is that little voice or idea that comes into your head to entice you to do things that you really don't want to do. Any of you who have researched voodoo, witchcraft, devil worship, etc. have got to wonder if any of it is true. This power is responsible for the evil things in this world.
I have gone and gotten all spiritual again. I only mention this because someone wanted a piece of factual information that they can prove for themselves if they want. There are a lot of physical manifestations that can happen by connecting with either side on spirit things. There is only proof to you if you pursue to understand these. There are many things in this world that you can do to influence this world, and not all of them are so blatant as witchcraft power.
I understand that I have stepped into the imaginary for most of you. I risk making myself appear as a fool to you to make a point. Reality is not only what you can measure. By only accepting what you can see, you limit yourself to the possibility of making spiritual connections. That's why I want to share all of this with you. You probably don't want to hear more, and I understand that. I just wanted to offer a new perspective to you. You can experience healings, visions, prophecies, miracles, and helpful contact if you want. Of course, its your choice.
Non of this makes me any better than any of you. I wanted to see somebody else benefit from all of the things that have happened to me, very real physical things. It's your choice if you think that what you have is enough. It may well be, and I wish you well.

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[RDK]

Had to get it out. Just kind of boils up inside until it pops. This is just a way to share a little love around. Iv'e bugged enough christians with this. Figured that I should ruffle some other feathers around the block. You guys are ever so much more polite to me than the church people get. Thanks for the favorable criticism.

[Zen Badger]

Had to get it out. Just kind of boils up inside until it pops. This is just a way to share a little love around. Iv'e bugged enough christians with this. Figured that I should ruffle some other feathers around the block. You guys are ever so much more polite to me than the church people get. Thanks for the favorable criticism.

Waiting for the banhammer to fall........

[reverendjeremiah]

Hi...My name is Minimalist...and I'm a literal-ist. It's been five days since my last joke...



Don't you know everything in the Bible is true?

Hi..my nake is Summerqueen..I'm a Virgo...my favorite color is clear....

It goes with everything I have

<--- one of Reverend Jeremiah's dingle berries is laughing hysterically at you right now.

[Rwandrall]

RDK you are a deist, or at the very least, you're not a Christian.

[DiRNiS]

He certainly doesn't sound like a Christian, but he does seem to believe in a personal god. Please correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I know deists don't believe in a personal god. Adding to that, he also seems to believe in nonsense such as witchcraft, voodoo magic, devil worshiping, etc. I would think a deist would be a little more rational?