Was Muhammad a Pedophile?

[reverendjeremiah]

Sybyl Walker..are you a spam bot?

[Cinjin]

Hi...
Girls in middle age, married between 12 and 16 years of age.
So I think that was usual, today is immoral and pedophilia...

A 16 year old is debatable even in today's standards ... but that's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about 9 year old girls. The huge majority of which have not even begun menstruation, let alone achieved a level of intellectual and psychological development capable of handling a sexual relationship with what we can assume is going to be an aggressive 50 year old male.

But too many people on this thread want to defend religion-endorsed pedophilia so maybe I'll just check out of this now. Clearly it pisses me off.

[Sybyl Walker]

A 16 year old is debatable even in today's standards ... but that's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about 9 year old girls. The huge majority of which have not even begun menstruation, let alone achieved a level of intellectual and psychological development capable of handling a sexual relationship with what we can assume is going to be an aggressive 50 year old male.

But too many people on this thread want to defend religion-endorsed pedophilia so maybe I'll just check out of this now. Clearly it pisses me off.

I think anyone who is related to a minor is a pedophile, it is not discussed.
I am an atheist, but when going to discuss a given as this is necessary to see what was natural at the time, you can not judge any time based on figures her contemporaries are not.
That's my opinion as a historian. Regarding child abuse, those who practice it have to be castrated.

[Eternity]

Hi...
Girls in middle age, married between 12 and 16 years of age.
So I think that was usual, today is immoral and pedophilia...

A 16 year old is debatable even in today's standards ... but that's not what we're talking about.
We're talking about 9 year old girls. The huge majority of which have not even begun menstruation, let alone achieved a level of intellectual and psychological development capable of handling a sexual relationship with what we can assume is going to be an aggressive 50 year old male.

But too many people on this thread want to defend religion-endorsed pedophilia so maybe I'll just check out of this now. Clearly it pisses me off.

Have a look here.

http://www.guidedones.com/metapage/frq/Aisha.htm

[Minimalist]

Yeah....you guys are fucking wonderful. True heroes!

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/04/10/...-says-mom/

SHUEBA, Yemen – SHUEBA, Yemen (AP) — A 13-year-old Yemeni child bride who bled to death shortly after marriage was tied down and forced to have sex by her husband, according to interviews with the child's mother, police and medical reports.

A February 2009 law set the minimum age for marriage at 17, but it was repealed and sent back to parliament's constitutional committee for review after some lawmakers called it un-Islamic. The committee is expected to make a final decision on the legislation this month.

Has anyone told you it isn't the 9th century anymore?

[Cinjin]

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[quote]SHUEBA, Yemen – SHUEBA, Yemen (AP) — A 13-year-old Yemeni child bride who bled to death shortly after marriage was tied down and forced to have sex by her husband, according to interviews with the child's mother, police and medical reports.
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Another innocent victim of the beliefs of long dead tent dwellers.

They'll just ignore this and say that tired cliche: "these are not the actions of a true practitioner of Islam."

And yet since these violent stories come out in the news ALL THE FUCKING TIME, it clearly is the standard practice of Islam.


A dirty, filthy, vile, detestable religion doing a piss-poor job of masquerading around as a peaceful faith - promoting love and communal harmony. It would be a god damn joke if it wasn't for the constant brutal violence.



They cut off her nose for fleeing abusive in-laws!
For christs sake --- what the fuck is wrong with you people?????

[Eternity]

[quote='Minimalist' pid='142399' dateline='1307156898']

SHUEBA, Yemen – SHUEBA, Yemen (AP) — A 13-year-old Yemeni child bride who bled to death shortly after marriage was tied down and forced to have sex by her husband, according to interviews with the child's mother, police and medical reports.

Another innocent victim of the beliefs of long dead tent dwellers.

They'll just ignore this and say that tired cliche: "these are not the actions of a true practitioner of Islam."

And yet since these violent stories come out in the news ALL THE FUCKING TIME, it clearly is the standard practice of Islam.


A dirty, filthy, vile, detestable religion doing a piss-poor job of masquerading around as a peaceful faith - promoting love and communal harmony. It would be a god damn joke if it wasn't for the constant brutal violence.



They cut off her nose for fleeing abusive in-laws!
For christs sake --- what the fuck is wrong with you people?????

There's nothing wrong with "us" as none of that is allowed in Religion. So please don't put all of us in a group as if we all comment these crimes. It's as if I were to say All atheist have no moral would be putting a entire group of people in a position they really shouldn't in.

[Minimalist]

There's nothing wrong with "us" as none of that is allowed in Religion. So please don't put all of us in a group as if we all comment these crimes.

YOU do not get to set the standard, my friend. Clearly, you have any number of co-religionists who would dispute your vision of islam. When I see hundreds ( or perhaps thousands) of your fellow muslims protesting these atrocities THEN you can tell me how peaceful the whole thing is.


Not before.

[Eternity]

There's nothing wrong with "us" as none of that is allowed in Religion. So please don't put all of us in a group as if we all comment these crimes.

YOU do not get to set the standard, my friend. Clearly, you have any number of co-religionists who would dispute your vision of islam. When I see hundreds ( or perhaps thousands) of your fellow muslims protesting these atrocities THEN you can tell me how peaceful the whole thing is.


Not before.

Without going further into the subject I'm only questioning why he would place all Muslims into this group that commit atrocities we this is clearly wrong. I'm sure there quite a lot of Muslims that believe the opposite of what I do and I agree that they would dispute that. I would be up to the debate if need be. But he should know that we are two different groups and as such should address us respectively.

[Cinjin]

Without going further into the subject I'm only questioning why he would place all Muslims into this group that commit atrocities we this is clearly wrong. I'm sure there quite a lot of Muslims that believe the opposite of what I do and I agree that they would dispute that. I would be up to the debate if need be. But he should know that we are two different groups and as such should address us respectively.

To the rest of the world, you are not two separate groups. You are the same evil group worshiping the same evil god, on your knees before the same evil prophet.

I would remind you of this point I made ...

And yet since these violent stories come out in the news ALL THE FUCKING TIME, it clearly is the standard practice of Islam.

When these brutal atrocities Muslims commit stop popping up on the news every other god damn week - then and only then will I even consider debating whether or not you are any different.