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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
July 2, 2011 at 1:32 am
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2011 at 1:33 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Statler is most certainly not correct in that regard. Incest is harmful to the potential offspring, and our revulsion towards incest stems from this basic fact. Its a survival mechanism.
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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
July 2, 2011 at 1:36 am
(July 2, 2011 at 1:32 am)Rhythm Wrote: Statler is most certainly not correct in that regard. Incest is harmful to the potential offspring, and our revulsion towards incest stems from this basic fact. Its a self correcting survival mechanism.
That doesn't make Incest harmful, it makes incestuous reproduction harmful. And humans used to breed in very small groups, as do many animals, AFAIK the usual "genetic defects" argument against the offspring of incest are largely urban myth spreading from our own emotional biases towards the matter.
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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
July 2, 2011 at 1:37 am
I would also like to add
Leviticus 20:13 - "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
You're right, it doesn't sound like the bible is promoting fear of homosexuals, sounds more like execution.
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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
July 2, 2011 at 1:38 am
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I have to agree with Void and Stat, though Stat's reasoning -- if you can call it that -- is different than Void's reasoning. The very suffix phobia connotes fear. Any base followed by phobia is an irrational fear of whatever that base word describes. In fact, I would go even further and say that homophobia, and other phobias, is more than just fear. It is intense fear, anxiety and irrational reactions to homosexuals. I have never met anyone who is actually homophobic, though I have bandied the term about more than I care to admit in this post. 
(July 2, 2011 at 1:37 am)Rhythm Wrote: You're right, it doesn't sound like the bible is promoting fear of homosexuals, sounds more like execution.
Which makes it hate literature. I won't disagree with you there.
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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
July 2, 2011 at 1:40 am
Execution is a rational reaction to a homosexual?
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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
July 2, 2011 at 1:42 am
(July 2, 2011 at 1:40 am)Rhythm Wrote: Execution is a rational reaction to a homosexual?
No, but it is not an irrational, fear-based reaction. Now, if the Bible promoted screaming like a girl when you see a gay person, crying, shaking and then killing said gay person for fear it might have sex with you or something ridiculous like that, I might agree with you.
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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
July 2, 2011 at 1:43 am
Fair enough.
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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
July 2, 2011 at 1:46 am
(June 1, 2011 at 10:06 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Every damn time I’m at my in-laws house for dinner, my father-in-law, Don, has to say the blessing. It’s always damn near the same, that’s why I can write it out for you. This is how he prays… (the remarks in the parenthesis are my own interjections)
“Dear Heavenly Father, we thank thee for this beautiful day (it was raining and cold), and for your bountiful goodness and merciful heart. (by the way, this is a 56 yr old who just lost his job and has no unemployment insurance) We are so grateful for the blessings you have bestowed upon us and upon our children. (Both my sister-in-law and I have been laid off for 3+ months) We ask only that you bless this food before us, that it may strengthen and nourish our bodies (which is exactly what food already does do for our bodies), and that we may enjoy our time of fellowship together. (he’s a mechanic – he NEVER talks like this during the course of any given day) We thank thee for your amazing gift to us, the lord Jesus Christ, and we look forward to that glorious day when we can join you in Heaven. Amen."
I throw up a little bit in my mouth every time I hear it.
I imagine that if their god was real he'd be annoyed as hell!
Imagine if you’re god/Allah, and 50 million people are thanking you for the food 3x a day. 150 million prayers - Everybody thanking you daily for their lunch burrito or their fucking hot pocket --- EVERY DAY until the world ends!!?!
I think I'd be destroying it a hell of a lot sooner than scheduled!
Anyway, I’d like to know how you believers pray?
Where do you pray? How often do you pray?
And what the hell is up with the “holier-than-thou speech” used in prayers?
Anybody? Thoughts? What is the usefulness of prayer?
Point made. Just went to McDonalds to grab a bite. Family of four saying the blessing over their $1 ice cream sundaes.
Come-on. Is that really necessary? Does your god really need you to thank him that often?!?!?!
Ugh I remember during Ramadan I'd have to listen to the TV that had prayers on 24/7. I couldn't eat and I was forced to fast the stupid fast. When I was living in the middle east the fucking mosque was only a minute walk away. Everyday the fucking prayer went off 5 times a day even at 4 am first thing in the morning. On Friday it's especially loud and if you look out you can see everyone doing this  . Honestly I don't have that much of a problem with religious people, the biggest problem I have with them is that they think we're going here  for being ourselves and WAKING UP.
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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
July 2, 2011 at 4:13 am
(July 2, 2011 at 12:33 am)Epimethean Wrote: The sins are overrated. Half the commandments could get shaken off the Great Etch-A-Sketch, and we'd be no worse for the wear.
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RE: Prayer ... SERIOUSLY?!
July 2, 2011 at 6:54 pm
(July 2, 2011 at 1:40 am)Rhythm Wrote: Execution is a rational reaction to a homosexual?
Depends. Did you have a reason for it or not?
Rationality is overrated... I'll take pragmatism over it any day 
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