Am I an Agnostic?

[The Grand Nudger]

Sounds reasonable to me buddy, glad to have played any part at all in your reaching this conclusion.

[Violet]

Perhaps that's true. Frodo may not be willfully ignorant...he may know exactly how ridiculous his arguments are...and he's just fucking with me. It's a possibility. Thing is, I ask honest , though admittedly aggressive questions about peoples beliefs, I truly want to understand. All i get in return are platitudes, factually meaningless definitions of god, and ignorance. That people derive great meaning from their religious beliefs is not something that I take lightly. Here are people who claim to have profound insights into purpose, the human condition, and happiness. Yet when pressed, they offer nothing.

And why tell these insights to others that should find their own way, as they did?

Like any masochist...I ask the next person who comes along and start the cycle all over again.

All joking aside, is it difficult to understand why this frustrates me Sae?

It is. I have next to zero interest in religious and scientific matters, and really don't see why anyone makes a big deal out of either of these. And when they do make something out of it, it rarely is about a topic that interests me.

I've spent the better part of two decades immersing myself in religious belief. It's not through lack of looking, or lack of understanding that I haven't found god. I am unable to have these sorts of conversations in my day to day life, and so I end up here. I would appreciate it if believers would consider for a moment that I may not be ignorant of the subject or it's history. I would appreciate it if believers would offer a single scrap, one iota, of intellectual honesty. It's been my experience thus far in life and on these boards, that these people are in the business of peddling gibberish, and not so much the business of having an actual discussion. If they simply believe, and have never taken the time to consider their beliefs, that's okay with me. All opinions are equal in value. All information is not. Yet never, never do I hear "I honestly hadn't considered it, I just don't know". Instead, affirmation upon affirmation, fallacy upon fallacy. It arouses an immense amount of disappointment in me, and I become exceedingly hostile with them over time. This isn't what I want. I don't assume that this is their aim either...trolls aside.

The opinion of a king is worth far more than that of a stableboy... just as the opinion of my appearance from a boyfriend is worth more than that of a sweet-talking stranger trying to get laid.

I'm no help when it comes to religious matters. I understand fr0d0's positions most of the time, Tacky's some of the time, Rayaan's some of the time, other theists rarely.

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Thanks, for the answers. i guess the best answer for me is that it does not matter. i don't need a label!!!

Manowar

Labels matter only if you think they do. I think they do, and label everything under the sun:

Asians: Pedophilia.
Kenyans: Premature.
Artichokes: Disgusting.
Elephants: Large.

And so on

[Anymouse]

The opposite being the "Hard Atheist", a type of fetish porn, where well endowed german men thrust towards the camera while quoting Nietzsche.

My Sweetie BethK is a "soft atheist," in the sense she is soft and cuddly. Unlike me with corners and angles, therefore a "hard Wiccan."

She definitely goes in for the "atheist revival meeting" videos like The Four Horsemen though.

I prefer the terms "moderate atheist" and "Fundamentalist atheist" (you're certain to burn in nothingness, whether you believe or not).