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What are your answers?
#91
RE: What are your answers?
(August 25, 2011 at 4:23 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: It's existentialism -_-

Ah but you can't know that, only make an assumption of correctness. Argue

I'll let you be an existentialist if you stop poking holes in the concept of knowledge itself. lol.

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#92
RE: What are your answers?
(August 25, 2011 at 4:35 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(August 25, 2011 at 4:23 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: It's existentialism -_-

Ah but you can't know that, only make an assumption of correctness.

-_-

Assumption of correctness = knowledge. You can know it. Easily, even. Doesn't mean your knowledge is worth two shits Tongue

= trust = confidence = faith = belief...

Worthless, and also all we have Smile
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#93
RE: What are your answers?
You don't have to trust or have confidence or belief or faith in any part of scientific knowledge Sae. Run it over and over and over until you get a different result.
(pro-tip: it's best not to have anything at all and let the results take you wherever they lead)

By the by, in to defend faiths other than christianity: The other faiths that would have filled the void were in no way more barbaric than christianity, though we have of course been lead to believe this by thousands of years of propaganda. Such an effective campaign that it just seems true.
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#94
RE: What are your answers?
I don't have to, but I do Smile

It takes *little* faith to accept science into your heart... but a little faith is faith nonetheless Big Grin

I was being ridiculous, rhythm... Christianity is by far the bloodiest religion other than the Aztecs... and it's a pretty close contest there. Don't know which to put in first place -_-
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#95
RE: What are your answers?
Takes no faith whatsoever, doubt it top to bottom. Doubt it every day. That's where good science comes from. I doubt, for example, that there was only one instance of abiogenesis, only one vector for life.

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#96
RE: What are your answers?
(August 25, 2011 at 5:12 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: I don't have to, but I do Smile

It takes *little* faith to accept science into your heart... but a little faith is faith nonetheless Big Grin

I was being ridiculous, rhythm... Christianity is by far the bloodiest religion other than the Aztecs... and it's a pretty close contest there. Don't know which to put in first place -_-

Evidence and facts don't require faith, they require knowledge and understanding.

Also, if I remember correctly, the religious rituals performed by the Aztecs, and the Maya was to take slaves or captured warriors of other tribes and sacrifice them up on top of the temple by cutting open the chest and ripping out the heart. They then cut off the head and chuck both the head and body down the stairs. All this was done so that the sun would return the next day. They feared that light would not return if they failed to make a few sacrifices to appease the gods.
Something along those lines anyway.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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#97
RE: What are your answers?
(August 25, 2011 at 5:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Takes no faith whatsoever, doubt it top to bottom. Doubt it every day. That's where good science comes from. I doubt, for example, that there was only one instance of abiogenesis, only one vector for life.

One can doubt things they have faith in Smile

Ace Wrote:Evidence and facts don't require faith, they require knowledge and understanding.

Knowledge: Faith.
Understanding: Anecdotal.

Feared it? Doubt that. Respected it? Certainly.

Good tool for terrifying the fuck out of your neighbors: rip other neighbors to shred ritualistically. Is no wonder the other tribes assisted Cortez Tongue
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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#98
RE: What are your answers?
(August 25, 2011 at 5:23 pm)Aerzia Saerules Arktuos Wrote: One can doubt things they have faith in Smile

And a toaster can fly, that doesn't make it an airplane.

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#99
RE: What are your answers?


Quote:Knowledge: Faith.
Knowledge is knowledge.
Faith is faith. The two cannot be put together.
I have knowledge that the coffee cup in front of me is empty, this is based on sight, touch and the weight of it. All three of these senses tell the same thing. It's empty. Where does the faith bit come in?

Yes, good tool for keeping the fear. Though when the Spanish arrived and saw the barbaric practice, they slaughted them. Tongue
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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RE: What are your answers?
If a toaster can fly, it makes it half an airplane, and all the way an airtoaster Smile

Also known as a 'heater' by some of the less civilized portions of the world Smile
(August 25, 2011 at 5:28 pm)Ace Otana Wrote:
Quote:Knowledge: Faith.
Knowledge is knowledge.
Faith is faith. The two cannot be put together.

Toads are toads.
Frogs are frogs.

Toads are also frogs.


Quote:I have knowledge that the coffee cup in front of me is empty, this is based on sight, touch and the weight of it. All three of these senses tell the same thing. It's empty. Where does the faith bit come in?

In you accepting this as true. The data you perceive is simply data... it is neither true nor false. You might provide it meaning, or you might not... it's data: it cares not.

Unless, it does. And then it usually has a knife on hand and is angry.

Quote:Yes, good tool for keeping the fear. Though when the Spanish arrived and saw the barbaric practice, they slaughted them. Tongue

You mean: their smallpox slaughtered them.
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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