What are your answers?

[Tiberius]

1. Are athiests just wounded people, upset that God hasn't shown himself to them in a way they deem acceptable? Meaning, if he suddenly appeared you would believe?

Firstly, a small correction to your spelling. It's 'atheist', not 'athiest' (note the order of the 'e' and 'i'). You might think it's a minor detail, but it is nice to spell people's beliefs correctly. After all, atheists on these forums don't go around calling people 'Christains' or 'Muslmis'.

In answer to your question; some atheists might be upset that the supposed 'God' being hasn't appeared when they needed it to, but I wouldn't say that all atheists felt this way at all. You'd have to ask specific atheists for their own stories; I can't speak for all of us. For me, it wasn't ever that I was upset that God didn't show up, but more that I realised God had never been there when I thought he had. All the events I put down to 'God' could be explained easily without him, and there was no good evidence to believe such a being existed in the first place.

If God suddenly appeared in front of me, and was able to prove that he was indeed God, I'd believe in him (naturally I'd have to, since the 'proof' would give me a certain degree of knowledge of God's existence). I highly doubt this can happen though, since the level of 'proof' I'd require would be very high. I mean, in all sincerity, how can you tell the difference between a God and a very powerful (but not omnipotent) being? Short answer? You can't.

2. Do athiests hate God or do they hate organized religion in general?

Atheists can hate the idea of God, but not God itself. In order to hate something, you must first believe it exists, and no atheist believes that God exists. As for organized religion, some atheists hate it, some are neutral about it, and some even like it. I'd put myself with the neutral crowd; organized religion (like so many things) can be used for good, but can also be used for evil. It can bring people together, but it can destroy them as well.

3. Why does it seem like athiests hate Jesus more than anyone, what do you think of Jesus?

I don't think it seems that way. I don't think many atheists would say they 'hate' Jesus; to some atheists, Jesus is a mythical character, so again, hatred of him is impossible. If the stories of Jesus in the Bible are true (I mean, the less far-fetched ones about him helping people out, not the ones with the miracles), then I think Jesus would have probably been a nice guy. I personally think that Jesus probably did exist, and was a very progressive thinker, but that over time, people simply gave him God-like attributes. I find it very telling that we have no "Gospel of Jesus" himself; the man is written about extensively, but none of his own words are recorded. It means his followers could have easily used artistic license to make him appear like the Son of God.

4. Do any of you know athiests that have converted to another religion, did you feel swayed by their conversion?

Yes I know atheists who've converted to religion. No, I didn't feel swayed by their conversion. It's simple; conversion is a very personal thing. I don't expect anyone to be converted to atheism by listening to my conversion story, and I wouldn't expect the same applying to me.

5. Are you an athiest based on your research of many of the top religions, or does your athiesm come from a personal experience where you feel that God didn't show up like he should have?

Neither; my atheism comes from my reasoning that if we start from basic principles, and assume nothing, there is no logical argument which proves God exists, or suggests that God's existence is highly probable.

6. Since athiests don't believe in God and dislike when people force God on them, why do they force their negative and hateful opinions on Christians (and other religions) through mockery and verbal assault?

You'll have to show me some examples of that before I answer. It has to be said, not all atheists are nice people, just like not all Christians are nice people. I hope I don't mock Christians to their faces, of verbally assault them. Joking around and mocking them in good fun is fine, but if it started to upset them I'd stop. I don't think you get anywhere if you resort to belittling someone in a discussion.

[Napoléon]

Firstly, a small correction to your spelling. It's 'atheist', not 'athiest' (note the order of the 'e' and 'i'). You might think it's a minor detail, but it is nice to spell people's beliefs correctly. After all, atheists on these forums don't go around calling people 'Christains' or 'Muslmis'.

Lol I wouldn't mind but it's in big fucking letters at the top of the screen.

[fr0d0]

If God suddenly appeared in front of me, and was able to prove that he was indeed God, I'd believe in him (naturally I'd have to, since the 'proof' would give me a certain degree of knowledge of God's existence). I highly doubt this can happen though, since the level of 'proof' I'd require would be very high. I mean, in all sincerity, how can you tell the difference between a God and a very powerful (but not omnipotent) being? Short answer? You can't.

If he were to prove to you that he was God it would break natural law. Therefore he couldn't prove it to you, without re-quantifying natural law. Would you agree?

(Speaking of the nature of proof I assume you infer).

[The Grand Nudger]

The guy who made the sun stand still and rose from the dead probably doesn't have an issue breaking natural law.

[Epimethean]

Especially since he's a fictional character from a fantasy story: Superman can do some amazing shit, too.

[MilesTailsPrower]

The more I read the posts on this website, the more I wonder about the real reason for the hatred a lot of Athiests have for Jesus, the Bible, God and religion.

These are my questions:

1. Are athiests just wounded people, upset that God hasn't shown himself to them in a way they deem acceptable? Meaning, if he suddenly appeared you would believe?

2. Do athiests hate God or do they hate organized religion in general?

3. Why does it seem like athiests hate Jesus more than anyone, what do you think of Jesus?

4. Do any of you know athiests that have converted to another religion, did you feel swayed by their conversion?

5. Are you an athiest based on your research of many of the top religions, or does your athiesm come from a personal experience where you feel that God didn't show up like he should have?

6. Since athiests don't believe in God and dislike when people force God on them, why do they force their negative and hateful opinions on Christians (and other religions) through mockery and verbal assault?

Thank you, in advance, for your responses! It would be great if you could respond to all the questions. I'm speaking to real athiests who respect my desire to understand the feelings behind athiesm. I do not intend to be disrespectful, if I am, please let me know what should be rephrased. Thanks again.

Salty

I can tell this is going to go no where.

[fr0d0]

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The guy who made the sun stand still and rose from the dead probably doesn't have an issue breaking natural law.

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Especially since he's a fictional character from a fantasy story: Superman can do some amazing shit, too.

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Trololololol

[Epimethean]

LOL. As opposed to:

Christianity, where trolling is required by sacred law.

[Justtristo]

I just looked up Ray Comfort, I'd have to listen to him in order to know if I agree with his biblical views, smh, that's how it goes for us Christians...sometimes we can't trust each other! That's why I hold on to the teachings in the Bible and I study them constantly, I don't want to be tricked by someone and handed some kool-aid.

Ray Comfort is the same man who tried to debunk evolution by natural selection. Namely showing a banana (which was artificially selected by humans to order to fit in his hand by the way).

I don't take him and his (maybe literally) butt buddy Kirk Cameron seriously at all.

[Ace Otana]

Ray Comfort is the same man who tried to debunk evolution by natural selection. Namely showing a banana (which was artificially selected by humans to order to fit in his hand by the way).

I don't take him and his (maybe literally) butt buddy Kirk Cameron seriously at all.

I think that was a very funny argument. That argument of his demonstrated his level of ignorance. He didn't know that god had nothing to do with it.
This what a natural banana looks like -



We merely altered it through artificial means. It can't reproduce on it's own without our help.
Ray Comfort has retracted his argument. Had no choice but to admit defeat.

What's even funnier, if god exists and all that, we've out done him by designing a better banana.
What a lousy designer.