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RE: Big Bang theory is not valid.
August 31, 2011 at 3:31 pm
(August 31, 2011 at 3:21 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Shorten the course and stop citing conspiracy. I'll be more amenable. Cite some facts, show some math, offer an alternative. Else-wise it's just pissing and moaning.
Related to origin and expansion conditions alone, we now have the Hubble constant h (= expansion rate); the cosmological constant Λ (= pressure resisting gravity); the cosmic deceleration parameter q0 (= expansion deceleration); the density parameter Ω (= ratio of actual matter density to density needed for flat universe), subdivided into the density for ordinary matter and that for invisible dark matter; and the bias parameter b (= measures lumpiness of matter distribution).
Maths is not my strong point neither are writing equations however I hope this will do?
Hi Napoleon, I have allllllot more to show, I will try to get the good bits out early.
Just wanted some rebuttals on dark energy as this is one of the 3 bases of the BB theory I'm challenging.
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August 31, 2011 at 3:32 pm
I came across this video, which is only 4 mins long and it presents some 'evidence' that dark matter exists, namely the 'bullet cluster' evidence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeBsHZA1YR0
what do think? 
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RE: Big Bang theory is not valid.
August 31, 2011 at 3:33 pm
(August 31, 2011 at 3:31 pm)Diamond-Deist Wrote: Hi Napoleon, I have allllllot more to show, I will try to get the good bits out early.
Lol don't start on my account.
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August 31, 2011 at 3:36 pm
Nice find CoxRox, that's more like it.
Let me go into my little box of tricks I have something for that somewhere lol.
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RE: Big Bang theory is not valid.
August 31, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Math isn't your strong point and you want to debate cosmology?
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August 31, 2011 at 3:46 pm
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Right a couple of rebuttals for that are these 3.
1) As I mentioned dark matter is not some far away phenomena, it is everywhere we have been searching for it for 20 years and found nothing, second that cosmic lensing can be affected by a small myriad of reasons ..... no one knows for sure what it is but they are moving in the right direction, I will site two examples one of doubt and one of a new discovery, remember whatever it is causing lensing of that mass traditionally would be a gravitational effect other "real" explanations are being researched.
2) 5 min short (pay particular attention to the end, directly about the bullet cluster) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHXv-NuSn...re=related
3) Proof against dark matter (huge find) 2011.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-05-univ...-mass.html
What does this mean ^ it means that filaments predicted by plasma theory (we'll get to that later) have looked like they have been discovered, this is a major break through and would replace dark matter, DISCOVERED MAY 2011.
Is that recent enough for you Rythim?
(August 31, 2011 at 3:42 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Math isn't your strong point and you want to debate cosmology?
I gave you an equation, work it out, don't worry I can get equations when needed, I have my sources to.
.... actually smart arse, what does that equation I gave mean hmmmm?
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August 31, 2011 at 3:50 pm
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http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1104...0711v2.pdf
(Point to any mention of DM for me please, in the paper this article refers to, which has been so kindly linked here AND IN THE ARTICLE YOU LINKED)
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RE: Big Bang theory is not valid.
August 31, 2011 at 3:54 pm
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(August 31, 2011 at 3:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1104...0711v2.pdf
(Point to any mention of DM for me please, in the paper this article refers to, which has been so kindly linked here AND IN THE ARTICLE YOU LINKED)
Members of the scientific community don't want to shout this out loud because of said bias (alot was made of the fact it was found by a 20yr old unbiased through youth) but if this is found to be established it would be a competitor to the dark matter issue .... in other words it could replace it, problem for BB theorists is unlike dark matter this stuff could be measured.
This I believe is a sample of things to come ..... I have more, signing off for tonight will return tomorrow to go over rebuttals and move on.
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August 31, 2011 at 3:55 pm
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So......conspiracy? Roger. I bet you have a lot of beliefs.
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RE: Big Bang theory is not valid.
August 31, 2011 at 4:01 pm
(August 31, 2011 at 3:55 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So......conspiracy? Roger. I bet you have a lot of beliefs.
Admit it you liked this one?
3) Proof against dark matter (huge find) 2011.
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-05-univ...-mass.html
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