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Evil Atheists
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Just seen a good programme on the BBC about what morals are, turns out they are a mixture of chemicals, DNA and environment.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b014kj65 You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. 
Excellent-and so timely!
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 RE: Evil Atheists
September 11, 2011 at 6:25 pm
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2011 at 6:27 pm by StatCrux.)
The term "sociopath" becomes a useful tool used to exclude those who exemplify moral relativism when taken to its logical conclusion. Its interesting that those who use the term are eager to distance themselves from any association. They recognise that something is "wrong" with sociopaths yet cannot find a logical basis to explain why there is anything "wrong" other than social consequence arising from "sociopathic" behavior. The huge failing of moral relativism is its inability to say behavior "x" is just "wrong" regardless of subjective opinion.
What is moral truth?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (September 11, 2011 at 4:16 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Just seen a good programme on the BBC about what morals are, turns out they are a mixture of chemicals, DNA and environment. Horizon is a damn good show.
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Dammit, Stat. Are you going to get caught up on this "sociopath" thing and ignore everything else I said to you? Stick to the topic and start another thread about sociopaths, if you must discuss it.
(September 11, 2011 at 6:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What is moral truth? Moral truth, is something which is beyond subjective opinion, not dependant upon social consequence, benefit or prevalent societal beliefs. For example rape, rape is simply "wrong" regardless of motive, intent or purpose. There is no rape that can be justified, it would be morally true to say that rape is "wrong" RE: Evil Atheists
September 11, 2011 at 6:58 pm
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2011 at 7:00 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
What do you base this claim upon, that there is no justification for rape?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 (September 11, 2011 at 6:48 pm)StatCrux Wrote:(September 11, 2011 at 6:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What is moral truth? Suppose the human species disappeared and what's left are a man and a woman. The woman does not consent, but the man rapes her anyway, and gets pregnant. Repeatedly she refuses him, repeatedly he rapes her. She has so many offsprings from the rapings, but the offsprings go on perpetuating the human species. Was rape wrong in that instance?
That would be subjective until further rapists grew up to muddy the waters.
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