Evil Atheists

[StatCrux]

Humans can be many things with no conditioning whatsoever. Kind is one of them. It is in our nature. I'm not misunderstanding anything here, I'm calling you out on a desperate attempt to assert the superiority of what you just so happen to believe. It's empty, absurd, and for whatever reason you seem to absolutely require for this to be true. It's bullshit, start to finish, and you probably know that. If you want to blather on about how the faithful (of any stripe) are superior in any way to the unwashed, just go back to your church. They serve bigotry warm, on tap, and on demand. That you named your thread "Evil Atheists" and continue to stumble around searching for ways to explain that we have no basis for morality, all the while claiming that the thread isn't about faith of any stripe is pathetic. You're a liar.

You seem to have a rather large chip on your shoulder, "assert superiority"? I'm sorry you think thats intent

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You seem to be ignoring the fact that most societies did not, in fact, survive. Most times, some other "theistic society" had a hand in their demise. Guess it doesn't always work out after all eh? Just how far back do you think religion extends into the record? Guess you don't mind worshiping booby dolls as long as it works right? Satanists are theists too btw (though I'm sure some would disagree). We don't have any evidence of "theistic" systems of morality beyond the neolithic, which leaves us with about 95% of our time here unaccounted for, and in fact we have plenty of evidence for animism in it's place.

"Value of religion
Organized religion emerged as a means of providing social and economic stability to large populations through the following ways:

Organized religion served to Justify the central authority, which in turn possessed the right to collect taxes in return for providing social and security services to the state. The empires of Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia were theocracies, with chiefs, kings and emperors playing dual roles of political and spiritual leaders.[9] Virtually all state societies and chiefdoms around the world have similar political structures where political authority is justified by divine sanction.

Organized religion emerged as means of maintaining peace between unrelated individuals. Bands and tribes consist of small number of related individuals. However states and nations are composed of thousands or millions of unrelated individuals. Jared Diamond argues that organized religion served to provide a bond between unrelated individuals who would otherwise be more prone to enmity. He argues that the leading cause of death among hunter gatherer societies is murder."

Control, short and sweet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_religions

So what you are saying is that organized religion provides social and economic stability, justifies the central authority and maintains peace between unrelated individuals?

So this is a bad thing? Are you proposing social and economic instability, no respect of central authority and disagreement between unrelated individuals when we all become atheists?

[The Grand Nudger]

Lead makes a great sweetener but we don't put it in the wine anymore do we? Read that passage again, and just for one moment go ahead and allow yourself to imagine that those people who formed those religions weren't actually communicating with Marduk. Exactly who did these commands come from? Dictators. Sure, don't kill each other. Also, your daughters, all of your earthly goods, and a significant portion of your food belongs to me. God wills it.

I propose no such thing, you are again projecting your own dystopian end times fantasies where they do not belong.

The lesson to be taken here, is that Marduk provided these benefits (and there is no Marduk). Mull that over for a minute.

[Statler Waldorf]

How come all the atheists on here keep trying to bring up religion? The OP had nothing to do with religion; he just wanted to know how a person could correct the hypothetical person given an atheistic worldview. Excellent post, it was an interesting read.

[The Grand Nudger]

LOL, here comes your twin.

[Shell B]

How come all Christians here make blanket statements about atheists? Read the whole thread, Stat W. I didn't bring it up at all and I am an atheist. Can't really argue your way out of this one, so you might as well retract your incorrect statement, for once.

[Statler Waldorf]

How come all Christians here make blanket statements about atheists? Read the whole thread, Stat W. I didn't bring it up at all and I am an atheist. Can't really argue your way out of this one, so you might as well retract your incorrect statement, for once.

I didn't get that far, I read the first few pages and got bored because nobody was even addressing the OP, what page did you start posting?

[The Grand Nudger]

Add that to the list of things you didn't get far in. Physics, Geology, Biology, Archaeology, Ethics. It's a hell of a pattern.

[Shell B]

I didn't get that far, I read the first few pages and got bored because nobody was even addressing the OP, what page did you start posting?

Must have been just before the time you decided you wouldn't read the whole thread, but would comment on the behavior in the entirety of the thread, despite not having read it.

[Statler Waldorf]

Add that to the list of things you didn't get far in. Physics, Geology, Biology, Archaeology, Ethics. It's a hell of a pattern.

You know these things how? If you knew anything about my education you would not resort to such absurd claims.

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Must have been just before the time you decided you wouldn't read the whole thread, but would comment on the behavior in the entirety of the thread, despite not having read it.

Found it! Why is it wrong to hurt others? Seems like you kind of just side stepped the question.

[The Grand Nudger]

LOL, everyone here knows more about your education than anyone should know (and especially more than you should have ever owned up to).