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Dear Theist: Do Your Job or Find Another
#51
RE: Dear Theist: Do Your Job or Find Another
(October 18, 2011 at 10:41 am)lucent Wrote:
(October 18, 2011 at 10:13 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:
post #42 Wrote:I am practically numb to such treatment, it doesn't bother me. I do find some of it annoying, but not to the point that I would try to get someone in trouble or make a federal case out of it......... and ....... If I had no other alternative I would be forced to go to your superior but I am not interested in creating more drama in the world than is absolutely necessary.

Are in complete hypocritical contradictions of each other

You are making yourself look even more and more foolish an imbecilic

They are not at all contradictory and your language is getting increasingly hyperbolic. I said in the first statement that I didn't take such treatment terribly personally, and I wouldn't want to get anyone in trouble over such treatment..my second statement said, that I would not wish to do anything, but if I had no alternative, because there was no other alternative for service, then my hand would be forced. I will also add that the service would need to be very important for me to take that step.

And just what makes you think that the persons wanting the service do not think that the service is important?? This individual is bringing their own personal beliefs in sharp contradiction to the service they are employed to provide ergo that person is now using black mail to agitate the govt to shove them sideways into another position where they hope their belief system will not be challenged

And please stop blaming me for your own inadequacies.
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#52
RE: Dear Theist: Do Your Job or Find Another
(October 18, 2011 at 10:59 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:
(October 18, 2011 at 10:41 am)lucent Wrote:
(October 18, 2011 at 10:13 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:
post #42 Wrote:I am practically numb to such treatment, it doesn't bother me. I do find some of it annoying, but not to the point that I would try to get someone in trouble or make a federal case out of it......... and ....... If I had no other alternative I would be forced to go to your superior but I am not interested in creating more drama in the world than is absolutely necessary.

Are in complete hypocritical contradictions of each other

You are making yourself look even more and more foolish an imbecilic

They are not at all contradictory and your language is getting increasingly hyperbolic. I said in the first statement that I didn't take such treatment terribly personally, and I wouldn't want to get anyone in trouble over such treatment..my second statement said, that I would not wish to do anything, but if I had no alternative, because there was no other alternative for service, then my hand would be forced. I will also add that the service would need to be very important for me to take that step.

And just what makes you think that the persons wanting the service do not think that the service is important?? This individual is bringing their own personal beliefs in sharp contradiction to the service they are employed to provide ergo that person is now using black mail to agitate the govt to shove them sideways into another position where they hope their belief system will not be challenged

And please stop blaming me for your own inadequacies.

I never said what those people should or shouldn't do. I only said that the woman had a right under the law to refuse to do something she felt was morally objectionable, and that the government had a legal obligation to accomodate her. It doesn't say whether their applications are being delayed or not. Certainly people applying for marriage applications should have them dealt with in a timely manner. I never said they shouldn't complain. I was talking about what I would, or wouldn't do. Your claim was that I was being a hypocrite, now we're off on this tangent. So again, how am I being hypocritical? And how am I blaming you for my inadaquecies?

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#53
RE: Dear Theist: Do Your Job or Find Another
(October 13, 2011 at 2:06 am)aleialoura Wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWiBt-pqp0E

I love this.
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#54
RE: Dear Theist: Do Your Job or Find Another
Fucking George Carlin.

That old bastard made made a living saying the same things I've been saying for about 40 years.The only difference I can see is that George was hilarious whereas I'm only mildly amusing at best. Usually,I'm more your common-or-garden-variety-nasty-old-misery-guts-and-curmudgeon..Tiger
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#55
RE: Dear Theist: Do Your Job or Find Another
My teacher once told me "In America you can swing fists around as much as you want...until you hit someone in the nose." Yea she has her freedon but her freedom cant interfere with someone else's. She was government worker denying someone legal rights on religious grounds. How illegal can you get? Government functions should never be determined by beliefs if your beliefs conflict with your duties find another job. Reasonable accommodation does not apply to being an idiot.
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#56
RE: Dear Theist: Do Your Job or Find Another
The woman in question has a right to step down from her position. Refusal to conduct yourself in a manner which you find morally objectionable only goes so far. She manipulated a system instead of stepping aside after failing to carry out the responsibilities of the position she held. End of. What you're proposing is akin to claiming that a cop can decide which laws he enforces and which he does not. While it's obvious that this sort of thing occurs as well, it is garbage. Jobs (especially in this sector) come with a list of responsibilities the employed have been made aware of and have agreed to carry out in return for agreed upon compensation. She has no right to retain her position after failing to live up to her end of the bargain, and her employer has no obligation to place her elsewhere simply because she failed (for whatever reason) to do the job she was compensated for in the first place. Her beliefs don't change any of this, she has not been discriminated against, she's a run of the mill bad employee.
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#57
RE: Dear Theist: Do Your Job or Find Another
Oh ya know,forbid people to be happy and properly live their lives because god...
Also i love seeing people happy and love helping them because god....
Exemplary Christian right there,comrades
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