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RE: Drugs may let us live to 150
October 17, 2011 at 4:13 am
(October 17, 2011 at 4:08 am)aleialoura Wrote: Yeah, she's fine. Smoking like a freight train.
Thing that did it for me was that Chantix had as high a success rate (ie: people STOPPED smoking long term) as no drugs at all only will power. Which equated to something like a 6% success rate.
At those odds Zen put his paw down and said to throw the script out. Bizarrely the drug retails for AUD$300 and is available at AUD$30 on the PBS system here in Oz. So the govt foots the bill to the tune of AUD$270 per script per month for a 12-18 month course  very strange fiscal behaviour.imho
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RE: Drugs may let us live to 150
October 17, 2011 at 6:28 am
(October 17, 2011 at 4:13 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Bizarrely the drug retails for AUD$300 and is available at AUD$30 on the PBS system here in Oz. So the govt foots the bill to the tune of AUD$270 per script per month for a 12-18 month course very strange fiscal behaviour.imho
Cheaper than the chemotherapy that your government also pays for, I'm sure.
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RE: Drugs may let us live to 150
October 17, 2011 at 6:35 am
(October 17, 2011 at 6:28 am)Jaysyn Wrote: (October 17, 2011 at 4:13 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Bizarrely the drug retails for AUD$300 and is available at AUD$30 on the PBS system here in Oz. So the govt foots the bill to the tune of AUD$270 per script per month for a 12-18 month course very strange fiscal behaviour.imho
Cheaper than the chemotherapy that your government also pays for, I'm sure.
Thing is that those who will never NEED chemo therapy are the ones who are using this PBS bounty.
It always seems to be the way here... those that don't NEED are the ones who use and those who do NEED go without. 
Suffice to say that this drug and it's use is heavily subsidised by our federal govt so that it will "Appear good" to the major supporters of a minority govt. It's ALL political and has zero to do with health; Mental or otherwise.
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RE: Drugs may let us live to 150
October 17, 2011 at 9:11 am
It's not all doom and gloom Blaspheme. We use very little of the available space here on this rock. Plenty of room in every direction for more of us.
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RE: Drugs may let us live to 150
October 17, 2011 at 9:52 am
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A few decades of extra life? Why not, you only live once. Might as well make it last. Though I'd expect the human population to soar, seeing as people can live longer. We're already over populated.
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RE: Drugs may let us live to 150
October 17, 2011 at 12:19 pm
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30's my goal... Anything past is bonus.
And for serial: screw living to 150. Also: I believe firmly anyone taking them up on this is being scammed.
(October 17, 2011 at 9:11 am)Rhythm Wrote: It's not all doom and gloom Blaspheme. We use very little of the available space here on this rock. Plenty of room in every direction for more of us. ^
What rhythm says. And tech is only moving faster and faster... I'm not undly worried, and of we start running out of resources I'll just take other's 
(October 17, 2011 at 9:11 am)Rhythm Wrote: It's not all doom and gloom Blaspheme. We use very little of the available space here on this rock. Plenty of room in every direction for more of us. ^
What rhythm says. And tech is only moving faster and faster... I'm not undly worried, and of we start running out of resources I'll just take other's
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RE: Drugs may let us live to 150
October 17, 2011 at 1:37 pm
(October 16, 2011 at 11:02 pm)I_Blaspheme Wrote: (October 16, 2011 at 9:54 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: In fact, I actually read an article for a college class which talked about how, if there was going to be an increase in the maximum age that humans could live to, things would be a whole lot worse; there'd be overpopulation and most developed nations would become gerontocratic plutocracies. I should probably search in my personal archives to see if I can find it.
Makes sense. Given the state of world population growth today, our birth rates and longevity don't make for a sustainable population.
In the year I was born (1967) there were approximately 3.45 billion people on Earth. Today, there are at least double that.
I have serious doubts that our biosphere can sustain another doubling of population. My personal contribution to population reduction was to only have one child. My brother and sister chose to have none, though for other reasons.
If it makes you feel any better, UN projections are that our population will not double again, but peak at around 9 billion half way through this century and very slowly go into decline.
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RE: Drugs may let us live to 150
October 17, 2011 at 2:02 pm
I can't imagine living that long would be any fun... I'll aim for 40.
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RE: Drugs may let us live to 150
October 17, 2011 at 3:00 pm
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(October 17, 2011 at 9:11 am)Rhythm Wrote: It's not all doom and gloom Blaspheme. We use very little of the available space here on this rock. Plenty of room in every direction for more of us.
Sure. Problem is, a very great percentage of the land surface of the earth is fit for neither human habitation nor agriculture. I'd hazard a guess that we're using much of it already.
(October 17, 2011 at 1:37 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: If it makes you feel any better, UN projections are that our population will not double again, but peak at around 9 billion half way through this century and very slowly go into decline.
I sincerely hope they're right.
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RE: Drugs may let us live to 150
October 17, 2011 at 4:49 pm
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I'm only in my twenties and yet there are days when I'm forced to look around at the real undeniable world, witnessing all the ongoing horror, the poverty, wars, economic turmoil, genetic diseases and disorders and I start to think living to 50-70 is a life that's already too long. 150 years would be hell.
(October 17, 2011 at 1:37 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: If it makes you feel any better, UN projections are that our population will not double again, but peak at around 9 billion half way through this century and very slowly go into decline. I sincerely doubt it.
I've spoken to people with up to five children who've come from developing countries into the UK for a better quality of life so they could have up to ten offspring.
Unless there's a new emerging disease in the next century that wipes out half of mankind, at the rate we're going, there's no indication we'll ever curb this out-of-control birth rate.
Some fuckers out there just don't know when to stop getting women pregnant. Its disgusting. They've turned mothers into baby factories. They have dozens of kids everywhere and then abandon the mothers to chase after other attractive women and have their 'frogspawn' with them too, each one of them having no choice but to chase after said poisonous fuck for child maintenance, which they'll get without threat of violence, if they're lucky.
They should be forced to be sterilised. Having a family shouldn't be a right in this day and age.
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