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RE: Questions for theists.
November 27, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Already spotted it. Believing in any of this shit in the first place. Next.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Questions for theists.
November 27, 2011 at 1:32 pm
(November 27, 2011 at 12:35 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: (November 27, 2011 at 9:41 am)tackattack Wrote: I don't think anyone will burn forever in Hell.
(November 27, 2011 at 10:11 am)ElDinero Wrote: So does anyone go there?
Spot the mistake
When you were quote mining, did it not occur to you that the part of tack's post you were removing was actually crucial to the statement? How very dishonest of you, as usual.
In fact, you're not supposed to tinker with people's quotes on this site, I'm pretty sure. So why don't you quote the sentences in full and see if I still look as stupid as when you're done manipulating them to suit your purposes.
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RE: Questions for theists.
November 27, 2011 at 3:05 pm
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I was very careful to use the word 'most' before any generalization of the Christian view. Did I miss one? lol
OH YEAH i said "I'm not a Christian but I think I can answer these questions for most Christians:" damn.
(November 27, 2011 at 3:05 pm)The_Flying_Skeptic Wrote: I was very careful to use the word 'most' before any generalization of the Christian view. Did I miss one? lol
OH YEAH i said "I'm not a Christian but I think I can answer these questions for most Christians:" damn.
The belief that atheists don't go to hell is very recent and I will go so far to say that it isn't popular among pastors and priests. I don't think that's too far.
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RE: Questions for theists.
November 27, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Rayaan and GC, would you not be dismayed if you were to die and realise that, for an example, the ancient norse religion was indeed the correct belief, and because you died of old age or disease, not in battle, you went to hel (different from hell, for those of a pedantic nature) and was denied entry to Valhalle. No einherjer for you! My point being that every religion on earth believes itself to have the one true answer to life, the universe and everything, as well as the only valid pass to "heaven". What makes you think your point of view is so special?
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November 27, 2011 at 8:12 pm
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Because it's theirs.....Either of them can give you any reason they like, but in the end that's what it's going to boil down to.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Questions for theists.
November 28, 2011 at 12:33 am
(November 27, 2011 at 4:32 pm)Ratatosk Wrote: Rayaan and GC, would you not be dismayed if you were to die and realise that, for an example, the ancient norse religion was indeed the correct belief, and because you died of old age or disease, not in battle, you went to hel (different from hell, for those of a pedantic nature) and was denied entry to Valhalle. No einherjer for you! My point being that every religion on earth believes itself to have the one true answer to life, the universe and everything, as well as the only valid pass to "heaven". What makes you think your point of view is so special?
You need to take into account the Bible, within this book it is said that God is the only god, there are no other gods. This is what my God says, besides as far as I know the Norse religion is a dead one and so are most of the ancient ones. The most important reason is the relationship with Him, I do not know about the religions but I do not remember them saying anything about having a relationship with their god/gods.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Questions for theists.
November 28, 2011 at 12:42 am
Woah, I tried to follow your argument there GC, but I got dizzy from going in circles. Need to sit down.
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RE: Questions for theists.
November 28, 2011 at 2:17 am
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Nope not dead GC, despite repeated attempts by christianity to snuff it out. Nowadays they call it Asatru. If you think that christianity is the only religion that offers a relationship with god you're sorely mistaken. While we're on the subject, cracked a cold one with the big man recently? Just how is this "relationship" of yours progressing?
"You need to take the bible into account"....actually no, no one needs to take the bible into account. It's garbage taken literally, and mediocre overall metaphorically. Sure it has it's moments, but you have to suffer through some pretty boring shit to find them.
Begat begat begat begat begat begat begat begat begat. Annihilates a city. Ah finally, some action.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Questions for theists.
November 28, 2011 at 8:41 am
I didn't say "I don't think people will go to hell", I said "I don't think anyone will burn forever in Hell." I think a lot of people will end up in hell, just not that they'll be tortured for all eternity.. which is the majority belief among Christians I've spoken with, am on forums with, and has been taught through seminary (well maybe not Catholic seminary). So unless you can come up with some statistics FlyingSkeptic, I don't think you're of a belief to be speaking for the majority of Christians.
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RE: Questions for theists.
November 28, 2011 at 9:21 am
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(November 28, 2011 at 12:33 am)Godschild Wrote: You need to take into account the Bible, within this book it is said that God is the only god, there are no other gods. This is what my God says, besides as far as I know the Norse religion is a dead one and so are most of the ancient ones. The most important reason is the relationship with Him, I do not know about the religions but I do not remember them saying anything about having a relationship with their god/gods.
My god says he's the only god. Q.E.D. Move along, nothing to see here folks.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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