Did Jesus Even Really Exist?

[reverendjeremiah]

Now try giving some real proof and not the opinion of others.

You wouldn't know the difference, G-C.

I would be shocked if he did... talk about being an air head.

[Happy UnBeliever]

You and I both. The only proof he has is the Bible. He has no evidence in ANTIQUITY either contemporary or primary to prove this jesus ever lived.

[Joe Bloe]

Born to a virgin, turned water into wine, cured blindness with spit, found seven demons living inside the body of Mary Magdalene, calmed the stormy sea, walked on water, raised Lazarus from the dead.

The stories just go on and on, bullshit tale after bullshit tale. There is no way that this character ever existed.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

The stories just go on and on, bullshit tale after bullshit tale. There is no way that this character ever existed.

Argument from incredulity.

While there are some pretty incredible tales about Jesus, they do not prove the non existence of an historical Jesus. Neither does the lack of contemporary accounts.

The most I'm willing to say is that it's possible,even likely that there was an historical Jesus, we don't know. However,there is no doubt in my mind that the Jesus of the New Testament is pure myth.

[Minimalist]

it's possible,even likely that there was an historical Jesus, we don't know. However,there is no doubt in my mind that the Jesus of the New Testament is pure myth.

The problem with that, Pad, is that to the real fuckwits there is no difference. The jesus they worship did all the magic tricks otherwise they wouldn't worship him.

[Godscreated]

[Epimethean]

"It would help you to read what others post before you comment, why are you so mad at God?"


No atheist is mad at your made-up skywizard: We are angry that nitwits who believe in such a fabrication continue to fuck off and try to make more loonies to follow their stupid fairytale when the world needs more sane, rational, scientific thinkers. Fuck superstitious mumbo-jumbo back into the darkness of ignorance whence it came.

[Godscreated]

I'm not sure why you mentioned Herod, if it was one who knew Jesus I believe I said higher ranking people.

How high a rank do you want? Local ruler isn't enough? What do you want? Emperor Tiberius?

The point I've been trying to make is this, Jesus was not know by those who are written about in history except for Herod. So there's no real reason for Him to be written about in history.

Syria, now that's along way off, get real please.

For the time, yes. It doesn't fit your narrative that Jesus was just a local yocal that nobody outside a small group of peasants paid any attention to.

Go back and read what I said, I stated that Jesus was very popular with the lesser people of His day. With Jesus feeding thousands that had gathered to see Him, one can not deny His popularity nor would I want to. He said he came for the poor, the sick, the hurting, the down trodden and ect. so yes He was popular with those He came to help. Yes it was a small area He was known in, but His popularity was great to those who needed or wanted what He had. Just like today the elite did not think they needed someone like Jesus, they believed they had it, so they were not looking for anything from Jesus.

You have completely avoided the question, why? I've asked an honest question, can't you reply likewise? I believe "any" covers everyone.

OK, John the Baptist is an analogous example of one less famous who has more of a footprint in recorded history. Josephus mentioned him in a passage that wasn't a glaring forgery.

Jesus was also mentioned by Josephus, yes part of what was said was added but not all of it. Both are just mentioned you really could not call this a written history. Josephus was a puppet of Rome, He dare not write a history of Jesus like is recorded in scriptures, he would have hung on a cross as well for upstaging Caesar. Jesus was killed for upstaging the religious leaders of the day.

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[Minimalist]

The point I've been trying to make is this, Jesus was not know by those who are written about in history except for Herod. So there's no real reason for Him to be written about in history.

Admit it, G-C. You just pull this shit out of your ass in order to make yourself feel better about believing in childish fables.

[Godscreated]

"It would help you to read what others post before you comment, why are you so mad at God?"


No atheist is mad at your made-up skywizard: We are angry that nitwits who believe in such a fabrication continue to fuck off and try to make more loonies to follow their stupid fairytale when the world needs more sane, rational, scientific thinkers. Fuck superstitious mumbo-jumbo back into the darkness of ignorance whence it came.

Just because I'm not one of the smartest cookies in the jar does not mean all christians are the same. One of my former youth is know a nuclear engineer and the company he works for sends him across the country and outside the country to help others in his field. This young man is a stronger christian than I am and he believes the Bible to be the Word of God.