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Adopting Religion for fear of what may transpire post death?
#21
RE: Adopting Religion for fear of what may transpire post death?
i think that it's a juvenile rebuttal on the christian's behalf. to be honest, i wouldn't take anyone seriously that offered that poorly thought out argument to me because they're stupid enough to not be able to recognize that it makes their faith look weak.
people are creatures of habit and tradition and i don't blame many people for sticking to a faith that they've grown up with. it's unfortunate, but eh. when someone comes in to their lives and jeopardizes what they've known all of their lives to be true, they act out childishly and retort with anything that they can conjure up. shrug
could i get a drink and an ashtray?
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#22
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(November 28, 2011 at 4:59 pm)Xavier Wrote: Pascal's Wager assumes you can actually choose to believe in God.
You can't choose to believe something.

As you look at your computer screen now can you choose to believe that the screen is not real and not really there.

I can. But then, I'm speshul. [Image: teef.gif]


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#23
RE: Adopting Religion for fear of what may transpire post death?
Tell your friend he better make sure he's buried with a couple of coins over his eyes. It would be a shame if he didn't have any fare to get across Styx.
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#24
RE: Adopting Religion for fear of what may transpire post death?
While we're at it, I have two dolls that are, in fact, gods. They demand whiskey and tobacco. Does your buddy need my address? Don't worry, I can be trusted to make sure they receive the offerings.
(the female one likes teh shiniez and the male one likes hookers...if he wants to be sure he's on their good side.)
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#25
RE: Adopting Religion for fear of what may transpire post death?
This says it all really:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqJpZOljjG8
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#26
RE: Adopting Religion for fear of what may transpire post death?
The very problems with Pascal's Wager are that first, you have to actually believe that God and hell exist for it to have any effect, and secondly, you would have to follow every single religion that exists or ever has existed just so you can make sure you're following the right one. This is impossible, because many if not most of these religions have mutually-exclusive beliefs. You can't worship all the Greek and Norse gods because Yahweh says to only worship him.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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#27
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(November 27, 2011 at 3:29 am)Forsaken Wrote: ...If he was wrong, no problem! It did not cost him a dime to believe in god, so if god did not exist, after his death, he is simply gone from the face of the earth and his body rotted away in his grave.

It did not cost him a dime to believe in God, huh? I've heard this many times from Christians. I like to use this to rebut that idiotic statement. This is a Christian mega-church near my home. It is located in Longwood, Florida.

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It was recently built, to the tune of about 500 million dimes (about 50 million dollars). Every week this church takes in over $200,000 in tithes and offerings. Imagine the dent that could be made in worldwide hunger if all Christians would donate to food banks instead of churches.
"If there are gaps they are in our knowledge, not in things themselves." Chapman Cohen

"Shit-apples don't fall far from the shit-tree, Randy." Mr. Lahey
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#28
RE: Adopting Religion for fear of what may transpire post death?
Some friends of ours (my wife and I) are currently having a dispute over tithing. Apparently my buddy's wife was at church and the pastor decided to beat the tithing drum, implying that good christians in the chruch were meeting their "tithing commitment" whilst others may not be. Publicly shaming people (imagine the eyes going left and right, wondering who the bad christians were), in an attempt to make a buck. Real fucking classy. Apparently Pastor So and So needs a new pair of shoes. In any case, his wife feels the thumb on the top of her head and writes a check. Guess they couldn't afford it after all-que marital discord.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#29
RE: Adopting Religion for fear of what may transpire post death?
(December 1, 2011 at 1:51 pm)Rhythm Wrote:




Well shame on those Christians that don't pony up! Don't they know how expensive it is to put on the Christmas show every year? Fuck, their mixing board alone probably cost $200,000!
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And how is the pastor going to visit the Coliseum in Rome if all of the sheep aren't tithing enough?

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"If there are gaps they are in our knowledge, not in things themselves." Chapman Cohen

"Shit-apples don't fall far from the shit-tree, Randy." Mr. Lahey
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