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Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
(July 29, 2015 at 9:43 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(July 29, 2015 at 5:53 pm)Crossless1 Wrote: It's called solipsism, you simple sap.  It's essentially an epistemological thought experiment that can't really be disproven, but no one (aside from psychotics, perhaps) actually live as though they believe it.

 I don't subscribe to your delusion, it's simple as that.

GC

GC, I realize you have the reading comprehension of a boll weevil, but pointing out what solipsism is is not the same thing as subscribing to it, much less being deluded by it. How you manage to shower without choking on the bar of soap is an enduring mystery.
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RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
(July 29, 2015 at 5:50 pm)Godschild Wrote: Sure I do, I do not need quantum mechanics or anything else for proof of God's existence, I have done what scriptures teach, allowed God to prove Himself to me, this was something you over looked back when. You tried on your own to prove God and the scriptures, when only God can do that. Again you only thought you were a Christian for 30 years, if you had truly known God you couldn't deny Him now, that's an impossibility. 

GC

Blah blah blah "No True Scotsman" blah blah blah personal revelations blah blah blah shut the fuck up.

Still reading you loud and clear, you presumptuous, pompous fop of a godslave. Pick a different color.

I know these scripts better than you do, son. You got nothin'. You're just regurgitating the lines you paid the pulpit to feed you.


(July 30, 2015 at 9:34 am)Crossless1 Wrote:
(July 29, 2015 at 9:43 pm)Godschild Wrote:  I don't subscribe to your delusion, it's simple as that.

GC

GC, I realize you have the reading comprehension of a boll weevil, but an explanation of what solipsism is is not the same thing as subscribing to it, much less being deluded by it. How you manage to shower without choking on the bar of soap is an enduring mystery.

I think he must use liquid soap. I bet it gets in his eyes, though.
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RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
(July 29, 2015 at 2:44 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(July 29, 2015 at 2:04 pm)SnakeOilWarrior Wrote: More than you ever will.

Hey, I meant she didn't believe her friend was real, you're slow and I've taken that into account.

GC

You wrote a grand dissertation on whether you know gawd exists and are willing to simply dismiss the same in my daughter whom you've never even spoken to? Get bent GC. She believed as fervently in her imaginary friend as you do. Unlike you, she grew up. You go ahead and keep your 5-year old world view.
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RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
I had an imaginary friend when I was 5. But I was fully aware he was imaginary.

I called him "Mr. I". I thought that was really clever. I created him partly because I didn't have many friends.
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RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
(July 29, 2015 at 3:37 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(July 29, 2015 at 3:29 pm)Neimenovic Wrote: SHHHHH! Angry pass the popcorn, it's getting to the good part Popcorn

You haven't the ability to understand a Christian debate, put away the popcorn and do something constructive.

GC

Simple beliefs are easily understood. The only part that's hard to understand is why anyone would believe that shit.
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RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
(July 30, 2015 at 1:15 pm)robvalue Wrote: I had an imaginary friend when I was 5. But I was fully aware he was imaginary.

I called him "Mr. I". I thought that was really clever. I created him partly because I didn't have many friends.

Mr. I had to be on some good transcendent shrooms, to want to be around you all the time. Just kidding Tongue

Surely, Mr. I, would be wanting to have some astral plane sex all the time, instead of playing hide-and-go-seek with some kid.

But, kudos for the cool name given to your invisible homie.
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RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
(July 29, 2015 at 9:43 pm)Godschild Wrote: [quote='Crossless1' pid='1008854' dateline='1438206813']

It's called solipsism, you simple sap.  It's essentially an epistemological thought experiment that can't really be disproven, but no one (aside from psychotics, perhaps) actually live as though they believe it.

 I don't subscribe to your delusion, it's simple as that.

Are you admitting your beliefs are for the simple? That's a step in the right direction GC.
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RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
God existence is 100% certain.  Atheist do not take profound look into this and just full stop looking for empirical evidence (a supernatural event).  Even if there is a supernatural event it would still not convince an atheist, because it requires a deeper understanding, which either they refuse to do or afraid to do or perhaps are angry.

There is only one God.  Atheist like to play the many gods game.  God is called by many names but there is only one.  It is our fault that the many names used to call upon God is seen as different gods, which in actually is not true and causes friction among the religions.

Science can only measure the physical things and tell how they work, however, it completely lacks the ability to answer why.  Why did the universe happen at all?  The probability is low that we should not even be here.  How did it come about? Big Bang!!  Well what caused the big bang?  There are theories, but for now let us fill the gap with what atheists would say, "nothing", and when you die you go back to "nothing".

A more sound reason to explain this complex physical realm with all its enigma is that God creates, sustains, and destroys this physical realm.  We see these as good and bad, and that is what is keeping us bounded to this realm.  Life (and other physical things) will be created, survive and be gone.  This physical world is never meant to be forever.  We are just travelers in temporary physical bodies whose sole purpose is to release ourselves from our own transgressions.  

All the twisting atheist try to do in removing God is futile.  They try use the divide and conquer technique to confuse religious groups by asking them "Who would get salvation? Is it only for christians and not muslims?"  So this puts a doubt in a religious person.  The real answer is everyone and anyone who wants to free oneself from this physical realm can do so.

God has given humans the ability to freely obtain salvation.  That salvation is not limited to any region or race, nor dependent on any ritual or religion.  God is not christian, jewish, muslim, hindu, buddhist, etc.  God is not female or male.  God reside in the realm beyond this physical universe (and all other physical realms), above the finite and infinite, not bounded by anything.  Though we don't realize this, it is our choice to reside in this realm.  Here is where we find duality, positive and negative, etc.  If one affirms to move away from the duality, it will begin a path for spiritual awakening at which point the ego (I, me, my) will be removed.  In God's realm there is no I (no ego, only tranquility).  

Just in case you thought I forgot about the animals, they also obtain salvation.  The only difference, they don't need to work as hard as we do to get it.

So what does God do to an atheist after death?  God grants them their wish of becoming nothing and therefore they obtain salvation of becoming nothing.

So would an atheist be convinced?  Probably not, because they are too damn lazy, that is why "nothing" will happen for them.  And when they become "nothing" no one will remember them either.
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RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
Yeah...

No.

You're very rude, by the way.
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RE: Theists - how certain are you that a God exists?
(July 30, 2015 at 2:35 pm)ktrap Wrote: God existence is 100% certain.  Atheist do not take profound look into this and just full stop looking for empirical evidence (a supernatural event).  Even if there is a supernatural event it would still not convince an atheist, because it requires a deeper understanding, which either they refuse to do or afraid to do or perhaps are angry.

There is only one God.  Atheist like to play the many gods game.  God is called by many names but there is only one.  It is our fault that the many names used to call upon God is seen as different gods, which in actually is not true and causes friction among the religions.

Science can only measure the physical things and tell how they work, however, it completely lacks the ability to answer why.  Why did the universe happen at all?  The probability is low that we should not even be here.  How did it come about? Big Bang!!  Well what caused the big bang?  There are theories, but for now let us fill the gap with what atheists would say, "nothing", and when you die you go back to "nothing".

A more sound reason to explain this complex physical realm with all its enigma is that God creates, sustains, and destroys this physical realm.  We see these as good and bad, and that is what is keeping us bounded to this realm.  Life (and other physical things) will be created, survive and be gone.  This physical world is never meant to be forever.  We are just travelers in temporary physical bodies whose sole purpose is to release ourselves from our own transgressions.  

All the twisting atheist try to do in removing God is futile.  They try use the divide and conquer technique to confuse religious groups by asking them "Who would get salvation? Is it only for christians and not muslims?"  So this puts a doubt in a religious person.  The real answer is everyone and anyone who wants to free oneself from this physical realm can do so.

God has given humans the ability to freely obtain salvation.  That salvation is not limited to any region or race, nor dependent on any ritual or religion.  God is not christian, jewish, muslim, hindu, buddhist, etc.  God is not female or male.  God reside in the realm beyond this physical universe (and all other physical realms), above the finite and infinite, not bounded by anything.  Though we don't realize this, it is our choice to reside in this realm.  Here is where we find duality, positive and negative, etc.  If one affirms to move away from the duality, it will begin a path for spiritual awakening at which point the ego (I, me, my) will be removed.  In God's realm there is no I (no ego, only tranquility).  

Just in case you thought I forgot about the animals, they also obtain salvation.  The only difference, they don't need to work as hard as we do to get it.

So what does God do to an atheist after death?  God grants them their wish of becoming nothing and therefore they obtain salvation of becoming nothing.

So would an atheist be convinced?  Probably not, because they are too damn lazy, that is why "nothing" will happen for them.  And when they become "nothing" no one will remember them either.

Ktrap, as a fellow theist I have to say  Disappointed  

You assume to know far too much than you can logically defend.  You believe those things, but that is different.  You most certainly say you believe "beyond reasonable doubt" which is as close as we can get to knowing with certainty.

Aside from that, to broadly paint those that hold an atheistic worldview is completely unreasonable.  I think most who hold an atheistic worldview are quite the opposite of "too damned lazy" and have done a great deal of questioning leading them to their belief.  Then to further assert that you know what God will do with them is to assume you have knowledge on par or greater than God.  My friend, I will not admonish your beliefs, but at the same time do not admonish others for theirs.  Instead look to have meaningful discourse with them and engage to understand better their positions and be willing to defend your own.  You will find that most are very reasonable and respectful.
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