(August 26, 2015 at 12:00 pm)Drich Wrote:

(August 26, 2015 at 11:55 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Someone surveys the land, lays the tracks, and determines the destination of the line.  It certainly can't be the ones born on the train.

God does all of that, so what else you go sport?

Well, Sport, other than the observation that you clearly have a fucked up idea of what love entails, I suppose the only other thing I have is the assurance that your entire story is bullshit from start to finish and that you've been had.

The story of Adam and Eve is ridiculous, and so is the concept of original sin.

"Shit, Eve ate this apple. I'm going to make childbirth for her really painful. And because I'm an asshole, childbirth is going to be painful for all women for the rest of history. All because she ate the apple (nevermind that the other women who come after her didn't have the same opportunity) after a talking snake (HOW THE FUCK DOES A SNAKE TALK, AND WHY DON'T THEY TALK ANYMORE?) told her to. Also this sin is going to be passed down from mother to son/daughter forever and ever. Why? Because Fuck humans. That's why."

And how the fuck do you explain Cavemen?

If Adam and Eve were truly the first humans, then ALL civilizations would have the same or similar story of creation, because it'd have been passed down from generation to generation. All civilizations don't have the same story of creation, ergo... the story can't be true.

(August 26, 2015 at 9:43 am)Drich Wrote:

(August 26, 2015 at 6:03 am)Imaginos7 Wrote: The message of Christianity is basically that God/Jesus wants you to believe, love and worship him, and if you don't do it he'll send you to hell to be tortured for eternity.

How is this be interpreted as a message of love?

very simply put, We are all destined to Hell. we are all born live and die on a train that is heading to Hell with no other planned stops. The Love God offers, provides those who want off that train a way to get off of it.

Oddly, every time you post some more horseshit I have this vision of hell.  I think hell is anyplace where you are.

The defining message of the christer faith is obedience. Absolute, unquestioning obedience.

Morality - Doing what's right, no matter what you're told.
Religion - Doing what you're told, no matter what is right.

(August 26, 2015 at 11:55 am)Crossless1 Wrote:

(August 26, 2015 at 11:39 am)Drich Wrote: Again we were all born live and will die on this train. In that way The train becomes the model of existence. the reason the analogy works is because a train can only go where the train tracks lead. in the analogy the tracks/our lives automatically lead to hell.

Someone surveys the land, lays the tracks, and determines the destination of the line.  It certainly can't be the ones born on the train.

Apparently it's the Matrix.  Lots and lots of people don't know they are on this train.

(August 26, 2015 at 9:43 am)Drich Wrote:

(August 26, 2015 at 6:03 am)Imaginos7 Wrote: The message of Christianity is basically that God/Jesus wants you to believe, love and worship him, and if you don't do it he'll send you to hell to be tortured for eternity.

How is this be interpreted as a message of love?

very simply put, We are all destined to Hell. we are all born live and die on a train that is heading to Hell with no other planned stops. The Love God offers, provides those who want off that train a way to get off of it.

The core message of Christianity is self-loathing. All humans are fallen. Pride is a sin.

Love thy neighbor, hmmm sounds like love to me.

(August 26, 2015 at 12:59 pm)strawdawg Wrote: Love thy neighbor, hmmm sounds like love to me.

Remember Barry McGuire? "Hate your next door neighbour but don't forget to say grace..."

Sounds more like it, going by the realities.

(August 26, 2015 at 12:59 pm)strawdawg Wrote: Love thy neighbor, hmmm sounds like love to me.

Rather depends on the consequent actions - you can love people to death in the interest of saving their souls.

The Bible would be just fine if it read:

LOVE THY NEIGHBOR. DON'T BE AN ASSHOLE (not even to gay people, or people of a different color or religion). TAKE CARE OF THE POOR BY FEEDING THEM, CLOTHING THEM, AND GIVING THEM A PLACE TO STAY. Thus endeth the lesson said the lord thy god. "But what about..." Abraham started to ask. "WAS I NOT FUCKING CLEAR ENOUGH?" said the lord thy god. "NO FUCKING EXCEPTIONS."