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Core Message Of Christianity Isn't One Of Love
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RE: Core Message Of Christianity Isn't One Of Love
(August 26, 2015 at 12:59 pm)strawdawg Wrote: Love thy neighbor, hmmm sounds like love to me.

"Worship me or burn forever" ... not so much.

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The "love they neighbour" bit, in the comparatively tiny New Testament, is the equivalent of father saying the odd "kind" thing now and then while beating the shit out of you the rest of the time.
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#43
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(August 26, 2015 at 1:12 pm)Divinity Wrote: The Bible would be just fine if it read:

LOVE THY NEIGHBOR.  DON'T BE AN ASSHOLE (not even to gay people, or people of a different color or religion).  TAKE CARE OF THE POOR BY FEEDING THEM, CLOTHING THEM, AND GIVING THEM A PLACE TO STAY.  Thus endeth the lesson said the lord thy god.  "But what about..."  Abraham started to ask.  "WAS I NOT FUCKING CLEAR ENOUGH?" said the lord thy god.  "NO FUCKING EXCEPTIONS."

Makes you wonder why god decided to elaborate on all the rest, at great length, though...eh?
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(August 26, 2015 at 1:14 pm)robvalue Wrote: The "love they neighbour" bit, in the comparatively tiny New Testament, is the equivalent of father saying the odd "kind" thing now and then while beating the shit out of you the rest of the time.

A comprehensive reading of the bible, keeping in mind all the injunctions on who you can kill and why, suggests that "thy neighbor," specifically refers to people that share the precise same subset of traits that the christian god finds acceptable, and that the hidden corollary of "love thy neighbor" is that everyone else is to be conquered or slaughtered in keeping with the execution orders in the rest of the book.
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The core message of christianity
preacher: Accept gods love or burn in hell oh and i-... god needs your money.
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(August 26, 2015 at 6:03 am)Imaginos7 Wrote: The message of Christianity is basically that God/Jesus wants you to believe, love and worship him, and if you don't do it he'll send you to hell to be tortured for eternity.

How is this be interpreted as a message of love?

My first guess is because people aren't getting the full story.  Probably very few actually read the bible, and even less would understand it.

(August 26, 2015 at 6:07 am)Neimenovic Wrote: The main message is that HE NEEDS MONEY

Pretty much, yeah:

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(August 26, 2015 at 7:38 am)Stimbo Wrote: All religions are intended for control of the masses through fear. It's what's prevented the ninety-odd percent of the population from eating the rich élite since at least the time of the pharaohs. Xtianity merely perfected the game, to the extent that the masses willingly, even eagerly, put on their own shackles. Now we have mass communication and the internet - aka "where religions come to die" - it's the religions' turn to be afraid, as evidenced by the amount of rabid scorched-earth threats from their mouthpieces.

Yes, let's hope their mass choirs are singing their swan song.
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(August 26, 2015 at 9:43 am)Drich Wrote:
(August 26, 2015 at 6:03 am)Imaginos7 Wrote: The message of Christianity is basically that God/Jesus wants you to believe, love and worship him, and if you don't do it he'll send you to hell to be tortured for eternity.

How is this be interpreted as a message of love?

very simply put, We are all destined to Hell. we are all born live and die on a train that is heading to Hell with no other planned stops. The Love God offers, provides those who want off that train a way to get off of it.

Bullshit, hell's probably fucking amazing. Zeus rip-off Yahweh is probably just afraid of the competition.
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Since it was god who set Adam up to sin in the first ace then it is god ho put us on that train and if anybody winds up in ell it' because that's where god wants them It's not about choosing Jesus since the vast majority of humans who have been born throughout history never heard of him.

A loving god would never have crated hel to begin with. Most people have neither the power nor the knowledge to be truly evil. And nobody can do enough evil in this short life to deserve eternal punishment.
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RE: Core Message Of Christianity Isn't One Of Love
(August 26, 2015 at 6:03 am)Imaginos7 Wrote: The message of Christianity is basically that God/Jesus wants you to believe, love and worship him, and if you don't do it he'll send you to hell to be tortured for eternity.

How is this be interpreted as a message of love?

Because we love God by loving our neighbor. "Whatever you do to the least of these, you do to me."
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