(September 21, 2015 at 9:21 am)Drich Wrote:

(September 20, 2015 at 7:06 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: So if Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden for billions of years then Assyria, Persia, Arabia, and Ethiopia are also billions of years old.

Im not sure what you are talking about.. clarify.

You mean to tell us that you have never read the fairy tale?  Shame on you!!

Genesis 2:10-14 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...JV;NET;CEV

BTW, the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers are in Iraq.

http://www.kjvbible.org/rivers_of_the_ga..._eden.html

(September 16, 2015 at 12:31 pm)Divinity Wrote: Many people have trouble with anything that goes against their personal beliefs.  

As a Deist I readily accept evolution as the best explanation for what happened.  I don't think god is some magic man in the sky, but more akin to a scientist himself.   Of course I also readily accept that this god is not omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent.

Okay not omni-anything.  But what about the maker of everything?  Is that negotiable?  How about a deity that didn't create anything except the conscious experience that you're having right now?  One that only has the power to: afflict you with Freudian slips from time to time; or give you bursts of insight and inspiration; or perhaps throw you into a deep dark depression.  Would you still call yourself a Deist if this was all the deity there was?

Pretty sure that's against the deist TOS

(September 21, 2015 at 11:49 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(September 21, 2015 at 9:21 am)Drich Wrote: Im not sure what you are talking about.. clarify.

You mean to tell us that you have never read the fairy tale?  Shame on you!!

Genesis 2:10-14 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...JV;NET;CEV

BTW, the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers are in Iraq.

http://www.kjvbible.org/rivers_of_the_ga..._eden.html

may I should rephrase...

Why wouldn't the garden be billions of years old?

(September 22, 2015 at 10:20 am)Drich Wrote:

(September 21, 2015 at 11:49 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: You mean to tell us that you have never read the fairy tale?  Shame on you!!

Genesis 2:10-14 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...JV;NET;CEV

BTW, the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers are in Iraq.

http://www.kjvbible.org/rivers_of_the_ga..._eden.html

may I should rephrase...

Why wouldn't the garden be billions of years old?

Let me know where you're going to place the Garden of Eden on this timeline.

http://astronomy.uconn.edu/lectures/TheE...Lesson.pdf

(September 22, 2015 at 7:44 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(September 22, 2015 at 10:20 am)Drich Wrote: may I should rephrase...

Why wouldn't the garden be billions of years old?

Let me know where you're going to place the Garden of Eden on this timeline.

http://astronomy.uconn.edu/lectures/TheE...Lesson.pdf

Without checking I think it was Day 3ish... The bible points out that the garden was complete long before it was all said and done.

(September 23, 2015 at 10:23 am)Drich Wrote:

(September 22, 2015 at 7:44 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Let me know where you're going to place the Garden of Eden on this timeline.

http://astronomy.uconn.edu/lectures/TheE...Lesson.pdf

Without checking I think it was Day 3ish... The bible points out that the garden was complete long before it was all said and done.

(September 21, 2015 at 9:57 am)Rhythm Wrote: That you find the date ranges offered by genesis inconvenient for your beliefs......doesn't mean that they aren't there, lol.  For a guy who claims to put alot of stock in the bible, you're awfully inconsistent.

Again, the bible does not put dates on anything. The dates were added some 1500 years after the canon of scripture was closed. Dark ages religion assumed (wrongly) that because we were 6000 years out of the garden that meant we were 6000 years off of creation. When in fact that bible gives no time line between the end of creation and the exodus of the garden.

(September 16, 2015 at 12:30 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Yes, what Exian said. I went to a Catholic grade school, where we were actually taught evolution lol. Most of us do believe evolution.

I learn something new. I was certain the Catholic church would NOT teach evolution. Guess i was wrong.

I was wondering about that. Since the Catholic Church isn't meant to change or something, how could they have always accepted evolution? And I doubt they originally allowed people to say the OT was a load of allegories either. Did they? This sounds more like just rolling with the punches.