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September 24, 2015 at 9:18 am (This post was last modified: September 24, 2015 at 9:21 am by Iroscato.)
(September 24, 2015 at 9:17 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(September 24, 2015 at 9:08 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: Weird that God would close the door Himself but make the puny human build the damn thing. That's just wrong. I mean, I know it's a story and all but it makes you wonder about the character of 'God'.
God closing the door signifies that it not going to be reopened by anyone but God. As for God's "character", he gave the people opportunity for 120 years to get into the ark, how much patience do YOU have?
Which of course justifies murdering every human being - man, woman, child on the planet, along with all the animals as well. I mean...what the hell did the kids and animals do?!
If he wanted to be slightly more merciful, he could have simply given everyone on earth instant heart attacks or some other form of quick death. But noooo...gotta make them spend their last mortal moments in sheer abject terror as they watch their lives and families be destroyed in front of them, shortly before succumbing to a slow death by drowning themselves. You know - as a loving god would.
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(September 24, 2015 at 7:56 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Complete and utter conjecture bollocks.
FTFY.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(September 24, 2015 at 9:18 am)Iroscato Wrote: Which of course justifies murdering every human being - man, woman, child on the planet, along with all the animals as well. I mean...what the hell did the kids and animals do?!
Can't say the animals did anything wrong because they don't have souls. But according to christianity, we are born sick and sinful, so obviously the kids weren't innocent despite doing nothing evil themselves. Apparently we are all responsible for the actions of every other human on the earth, and so share in the punishment.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
(September 24, 2015 at 9:17 am)Huggy74 Wrote: God closing the door signifies that it not going to be reopened by anyone but God. As for God's "character", he gave the people opportunity for 120 years to get into the ark, how much patience do YOU have?
Which of course justifies murdering every human being - man, woman, child on the planet, along with all the animals as well. I mean...what the hell did the kids and animals do?!
If he wanted to be slightly more merciful, he could have simply given everyone on earth instant heart attacks or some other form of quick death. But noooo...gotta make them spend their last mortal moments in sheer abject terror as they watch their lives and families be destroyed in front of them, shortly before succumbing to a slow death by drowning themselves. You know - as a loving god would.
Didn't the people, in Noah's time, have boats?
It's hard to imagine that no one got in their boats and managed to survive a flood...
Judging by a few civilizations in the Pacific, there are peoples out there who practically live in boats.
And the flood lasted for... what?... 40 days?... didn't they have boat journeys lasting more than that? From one side of the Mediterranean to the other on wind power...?
September 24, 2015 at 9:54 am (This post was last modified: September 24, 2015 at 9:59 am by Huggy Bear.)
(September 24, 2015 at 9:18 am)Iroscato Wrote:
(September 24, 2015 at 9:17 am)Huggy74 Wrote: God closing the door signifies that it not going to be reopened by anyone but God. As for God's "character", he gave the people opportunity for 120 years to get into the ark, how much patience do YOU have?
Which of course justifies murdering every human being - man, woman, child on the planet, along with all the animals as well. I mean...what the hell did the kids and animals do?!
If he wanted to be slightly more merciful, he could have simply given everyone on earth instant heart attacks or some other form of quick death. But noooo...gotta make them spend their last mortal moments in sheer abject terror as they watch their lives and families be destroyed in front of them, shortly before succumbing to a slow death by drowning themselves. You know - as a loving god would.
Without going into a long explanation, i''l just say this.
man was no longer what God had originally made them, they were hybrids. If you think Eve literally ate fruit, you are way off. Eve commited adultey with the serpent who was NOT a snake, he was cursed and became a snake for what he had done.
As a result of the serpent and Eve's union Cain was born. Cain is never mentioned in the genealogy of Adam showing that he is not Adams son.
The descendants of Adam (sons of God) began mixing with the descendants of Cain (daughter of man) producing hybrids which resulted in giants.
Quote:Genesis 6
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Many people misinterpret the "sons of God" to mean angels, but the Bible clearly states that Adam was a son of God, making his descendants also Sons of God.
Quote:Luke 3:38
Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
God just decided to wipe the slate clean and start over, even then he gave people 120 years to repent.
Also the reasons it had to be water was because that signifies rebirth.
water, blood and spirit
What happens when a child is born? the water breaks, the child is covered in blood, then he takes his first breath.
How does is one born into the kingdom of God? Baptized, the blood of Jesus covers his sin, then he receives the holy spirit.
The book of revelation says that there is to be a new earth, the scriptures cannot be broken. The earth must receive it's new birth like everything else.
The flood was the earth being baptized, then Jesus spilled his blood on it, then it will be purged by fire (fire represents the holy spirit, as when the tongues of fire hanging over the peoples heads when they received the holy spirit at Pentecost)
Quote:2 Peter 3:12
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Quote:Malachi 4:1
For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
(September 24, 2015 at 9:08 am)Whateverist the White Wrote: Weird that God would close the door Himself but make the puny human build the damn thing. That's just wrong. I mean, I know it's a story and all but it makes you wonder about the character of 'God'.
God closing the door signifies that it not going to be reopened by anyone but God. As for God's "character", he gave the people opportunity for 120 years to get into the ark, how much patience do YOU have?
I have enough patience that I'd give up on the idea of a flood altogether rather than drown all but 8 people in the world.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
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Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
(September 24, 2015 at 9:18 am)Iroscato Wrote: Which of course justifies murdering every human being - man, woman, child on the planet, along with all the animals as well. I mean...what the hell did the kids and animals do?!
If he wanted to be slightly more merciful, he could have simply given everyone on earth instant heart attacks or some other form of quick death. But noooo...gotta make them spend their last mortal moments in sheer abject terror as they watch their lives and families be destroyed in front of them, shortly before succumbing to a slow death by drowning themselves. You know - as a loving god would.
Didn't the people, in Noah's time, have boats?
It's hard to imagine that no one got in their boats and managed to survive a flood...
Judging by a few civilizations in the Pacific, there are peoples out there who practically live in boats.
And the flood lasted for... what?... 40 days?... didn't they have boat journeys lasting more than that? From one side of the Mediterranean to the other on wind power...?
Was Noah the first human to build a boat?
It was a magical flood that could only be survived in an ark. The magical flood water prevented regular boats from floating
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
(September 24, 2015 at 9:18 am)Iroscato Wrote: Which of course justifies murdering every human being - man, woman, child on the planet, along with all the animals as well. I mean...what the hell did the kids and animals do?!
If he wanted to be slightly more merciful, he could have simply given everyone on earth instant heart attacks or some other form of quick death. But noooo...gotta make them spend their last mortal moments in sheer abject terror as they watch their lives and families be destroyed in front of them, shortly before succumbing to a slow death by drowning themselves. You know - as a loving god would.
Without going into a long explanation, i''l just say this.
man was no longer what God had originally made them, they were hybrids. If you think Eve literally ate fruit, you are way off. Eve commited adultey with the serpent who was NOT a snake, he was cursed and became a snake for what he had done.
As a result of the serpent and Eve's union Cain was born. Cain is never mentioned in the genealogy of Adam showing that he is not Adams son.
The descendants of Adam (sons of God) began mixing with the descendants of Cain (daughter of man) producing hybrids which resulted in giants.
Quote:Genesis 6
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Many people misinterpret the "sons of God" to mean angels, but the Bible clearly states that Adam was a son of God, making his descendants also Sons of God.
Quote:Luke 3:38
Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.
God just decided to wipe the slate clean and start over, even then he gave people 120 years to repent.
Also the reasons it had to be water was because that signifies rebirth.
water, blood and spirit
What happens when a child is born? the water breaks, the child is covered in blood, then he takes his first breath.
How does is one born into the kingdom of God? Baptized, the blood of Jesus covers his sin, then he receives the holy spirit.
The book of revelation says that there is to be a new earth, the scriptures cannot be broken. The earth must receive it's new birth like everything else.
The flood was the earth being baptized, then Jesus spilled his blood on it, then it will be purged by fire (fire represents the holy spirit, as when the tongues of fire hanging over the peoples heads when they received the holy spirit at Pentecost)
Quote:2 Peter 3:12
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
Yeahhh...I'm gonna go ahead and put you on my ignore list. Nothing personal, you're just a total fucking lunatic.
If you have any serious concerns, are being harassed, or just need someone to talk to, feel free tocontact me via PM
September 24, 2015 at 10:03 am (This post was last modified: September 24, 2015 at 10:58 am by Huggy Bear.)
(September 24, 2015 at 9:59 am)Iroscato Wrote: Yeahhh...I'm gonna go ahead and put you on my ignore list. Nothing personal, you're just a total fucking lunatic.
So be it.
Guess I was making too much sense.... go back to burying your head in the ground.
(September 24, 2015 at 9:18 am)Iroscato Wrote: Which of course justifies murdering every human being - man, woman, child on the planet, along with all the animals as well. I mean...what the hell did the kids and animals do?!
If he wanted to be slightly more merciful, he could have simply given everyone on earth instant heart attacks or some other form of quick death. But noooo...gotta make them spend their last mortal moments in sheer abject terror as they watch their lives and families be destroyed in front of them, shortly before succumbing to a slow death by drowning themselves. You know - as a loving god would.
Didn't the people, in Noah's time, have boats?
It's hard to imagine that no one got in their boats and managed to survive a flood...
Judging by a few civilizations in the Pacific, there are peoples out there who practically live in boats.
And the flood lasted for... what?... 40 days?... didn't they have boat journeys lasting more than that? From one side of the Mediterranean to the other on wind power...?
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